Django
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Bach (and Vivaldi, Corelli, Paisanello) for oud
My Bach and Baroque transcriptions for oud will be ready next week. I've decided that members of this forum will not be charged for them. The
transcriptions will also be sold on Ebay and in ethnic music stores for money, and that should be plenty for me. If you have already sent me a
cheque, I'll just rip it up. So..please send your mailing addresses to MRBAYNE@sbcglobal.net, and I'll send out the transcriptions next week. I hope
you have fun with them. My next project will be a book of oud transcriptions of the Cantigas de Santa Maria - a project I've been meaning to do for
many years. Cheers and regards, Stefan
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Hatem_Afandi
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Hi Steve,
That is very nice of you. It is a real honor to have a great musician like you as a member of this forum.
Best of luck with the project.
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Hatem
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SamirCanada
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Thats too kind Sefan.
we are all endebted towards you for making those transcription.
On notations I sort of have a problem and Iam shure you could help me. I have learnt to read music playing the trombone for 10 years. Now this trained
me to read music in the FA clef. Wich lower then the SOL clef of course. I wonder why oud is writen in SOL clef and not in FA clef since its has a
pretty low register. Your intake on this? Also I sent you a u2u
Thanks again Stefan.
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Django
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I have written my transcriptions in the Fa (or bass) clef, which is the actual sound of the oud. Many oud players use the treble clef, particularly
players of Turkish and Armenian oud music, because a lot of the playing is on the two highest (nylon) strings. When you use F clef for this, a lot of
the notes fall above the lines of the staff, and so are hard to read. So the custom is to notate the oud an octave above the actual sound. I think
this is too confusing, so I have notated the classical pieces at exactly the sound the oud makes, which is in F clef. I hope you and all my fellow
lovers of the oud will enjoy this attempt to translate European classical music to the language of the oud.
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Time
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Thanks a lot this is very generous of you
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peppeo77
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This is very kind of you, I'm wishing you the best for this project and everything it involves.
Ciao, Giuseppe.
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al-Halabi
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Stefan, thanks for your generous offer. It is kind of you indeed. I appreciate your effort to notate the music in the oud's actual register by using
the F clef, although I have a small reservation about this choice. Middle Eastern music is conventionally notated in the G clef. The same sheet for a
piece would be used by players of the oud, qanun, violin, ney, tanbur, etc., even though they play in different registers, sometimes even two octaves
apart. Musicians know how to use the notation for their particular instruments, just as we oud players use the standard notated versions without
worrying about the fact that we are playing one octave lower than the notation indicates. Guitar music is also written an octave higher than the
actual sound and works fine. Sticking with the G clef seems to me to have the advantages of familiarity and convenience, with the understanding that
for an instrument like the oud the standard notation represents the music as being an octave higher than it actually is.
In your transcriptions did you transpose any of the pieces to keys that would make for easier fingerings and execution on the oud, or did you leave
them in their original keys?
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Brian Prunka
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I think part of the reason for commonly notating oud music in treble clef is that (at least in Arabic music) everybody reads the same sheet and
transposes it to suit their instrument--the music is not usually written for specific instruments. Also, the majority of the music is between Bb
below middle C and the G above the treble staff (sounding an octave lower on oud, of course), so it fits pretty nicely there overall, with the
entirety of the 3rd and 2nd strings and the 1st string up to the fifth fitting on the staff.
That's really generous of you, Stefan, to offer the transcriptions to forum members for free. Did you publish the book yourself?
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Django
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Many thanks for the explanations about treble clef. Really interesting! Yes, I did transpose some of the pieces for easier fingering, especially
since I wanted these piece to be accessible to beginning and new intermediate players. My next project, the Cantigas de Santa Maria, will be for more
advanced players. The music was published by a business I started years ago, Eraz Publishing ("Eraz" means "dream" in Armenian). Eraz is a
cooperative effort between me and RPM Seattle, which is an outfit that translates hand-written manuscripts into perfect computer copies ready for
publishing. Cheers, Stefan
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Brian Prunka
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That sounds like a cool project . . . i'd like to know more about it.
Have you heard the recording "Du désert d’orient aux jardins d’Espagne " by Hayet Ayead and Christian Zagaria? She sings and he plays oud (one
of them also plays percussion). They do some of the Cantigas on there, as i recall. beautiful recording, unfortunately not available in the US.
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Jason
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Thanks Stefan, I am definately looking forward to the music. As far as clef, I don't think it matters too much so long as you can read both clefs.
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Django
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Thanks so much for the comments about this. I' considering doing the Cantigas in treble clef - and I'll get the opinion of professionals like Simon
Shaheen, John Bilezikjian and others about this. The printer is aiming for wednesday to have the copies ready.
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