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UrbanTurban
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Oh My, Oh my, Oh my..............
Well, sometimes I write things before thinking them over because sometimes, I don't realise that it could come out wrong or be missunderstod. And of
course I appologize to Mehemt if he took it wrong and felt insulted, but in all honesty, a mucisian of his caliber would probably have enough
self-distance about my remarks that they would be able to take them as they where meant to be taken: WITH A LAUGH! The better you are (in any
profession, unless you are a diva) the more you will understand a joke or irony....That's Why I think he is laughing hard right now!
I explain:
(1) Using the word masturbation in the same sentence a a musical instrument that plays extremly fast and are, in 99,9% cases(like in Memhet case)
higly evolved on the instrument. So saying for example "that's guitar masturbation" to a Swedish guitarist would be taken as a non-deragotary
joke/irony. Translated into less provokative (provokative is in the eye of the beholder, in this case all on this forum) terms it would say: "damn!
you can play. You are one of the fastes gutarist I've ever heard!"
(2) To be compared to Yngwie Malsteen is for electrical guitarist WORLD WIDE is like a dream come true. Yngwie (well, his apperance is pompus and he
is a true exobishinist (sp?) but no-one hardly get compared to his looks, but compared to his music and beyond-belifs skill on the guitar) is one of
the fastes and most influential on the axe in modern times. He is said to be number one on executing arppegios fastes on a guitar. Yngwie is considred
a icon or God like person with his undisputably speed on the guitar. Yngwie has also influenced almost every electrical guitarsit you hear today on
this planet..Ask anyone that plays the electrical guitar on moderat level and they will tell you they know or heard about him.
So Isen't THAT a compliment to Mehmet??????
(3) Conclusion: Mehmet Polat is higly evolved on the instrument, he is also on the same level in speed and tecnique as one of the world best guitar
players. If I (Fredrik) was that good: I would be called a matrurbator ANYTIME!
So there you guys have it. I think I explained it so everyone could understand where I come from. Well, to not offent/insult anyone, I edited my
prevous posts containing the word masturbation and deleted them so all here could keep on living happy and in peace.
A talented oud player as Mehemet is definitly evolve futher, but this is what I think, he will calm down more the older he gets....That's what usally
happens to musicians when they get older, I don't know why, but it seem to be a fact.....Maybe it has something to do with that simplicity is harder
to master than complexity (chaos is easy to create, but try to get a simple order out of that chaos!). This is deep guys, don't work to hard on to try
to decipher it.
And last but not least; I think Mehemt (or anyone in here) is mature enought to defend himself on any critisism, insult, joke, irony etc.
Over and Out...................
Fredrik
The Impossible Just Takes A little Longer
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mavrothis
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I wasn't going post here in this thread again, but since a remark was aimed towards me, I guess I will.
Cihan, trying to make my post out as insulting is pretty ridiculous. Maybe you should read it again.
First of all, I don't think you were insulting to M. Polat in your original comments, just honest.
But here is the thing, once somebody has listened to something once (yes, of course you have to hear something once to know if you like it...perhaps
this should be obvious to you?), they can choose not to listen again, instead of being insulting, like some have chosen to be.
I'm not surprised a different style evokes these kinds of responses, like I said in my post, if you don't have an opinion about something, you're
probably not passionate about it. But, no need to be insulting to someone, especially not in writing.
I think that's pretty simple logic.
So, now that everyone respects Mehmet and his playing, and doesn't mean anyone any harm, let's get back to oud. What do you say?
Take care,
mavrothis
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cihan
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Mavrothis, I respect your opinions. I will not respond for the sake of not flooding the forum. However, please be careful with your wording next time
if you are responding to anything I say. If you want you can email me and I'll give you my cell phone number so that we can discuss on the phone
whatever the matter is. As I said, I don't want to talk any further on this matter in order not to cause a polemic.
Cheers
Cihan
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UrbanTurban
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Ok, I try to make this my last post on this thread......
First of all this is a oud forum so yeah, lets try to keep the topics to oud's. But fiery discussions is only healthy, as Mav said, rather react than
not, it shows we care......
And once again, we all here are adults enought to take a discussion I belive. And if someone gets offended or dosent' understand something, please
then try to email that person and take the discussion of this forum.
Then it's also healthy to have some self-distance, we are all here people and nothing more than people. And we all have a love for the oud, otherwise
we woulden't hang around on this forum. And for Gods sake, we have to be able to take jokes or irony. And for all that matters someone could even call
me a <b>kittie</b> or an sshole and I woulden't care so much! Because I'm mature enought to know ho I am! And Because I'm pretty god at
music (I play around 15 instruments pretty well) I'm able to laught something of easy. But saying the wrong things to someone that just started could
be disastrous, and I never do thoses things, trust me.......
But I still belive that discussion like these are necessary, otherwise we as peple woulden't get to some conclusion about anything and would probably
still be living in the stone age!
But words are powerful and we should try to think them over before putting them on here (that goes for me to, I forgett so easy). But we also must be
able to put a opinion here. There is enought of cencur, war, vilolence because people are missunderstod or dosen't whant to take a dicussion or here
someone elses opinion........
Well I guess that's all.............This forum is still awsome and lets keep it alive and growing, in the end we are all friends..............
Peace and love....................
Fredrik
The Impossible Just Takes A little Longer
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