Andy
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Abou Salim Arbeely oud
Looking for information about oudmaker Abou Salim Arbeely from Boston, MA. He built ouds around the 1930's.
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Andy
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Abou Salim Arbeely oud pic
Has anyone ever heard of this builder from Boston?
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zoukboy
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I'll bet Peter Kyvelos would know. He's in Somerville, MA, I think.
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Thanks, Peter is in Belmont not in Somerville. He has seen the oud but was hoping I could get more info from this forum.
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Thought I would not give up on finding info on this oud maker from Boston. It can not be the only oud he made.
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Please Andy ¿can you post the lable??
Thank you
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ALAMI
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"Al Arbeely" is relative to a a city name in iraq : Arbeel, Arbil, Irbil.
It is the "capital" of Iraqi Kurdistan.
A good starting point for your search for this maker would be among kurdish iraqi community or associations in Boston where he may still have
relatives or friends.
Just a suggestion, It may be a dead end......
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Alami,
this may also explain the style of making closser to the turkish school.
I was thinking also that it may be that the oud was made in America and that he was influenced by the Armenian and Greek comunity players. just a
thought.
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ALAMI
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You're right Samir, the oud looks closer to the turkish school, also the tortoise pickguard.
I was also interested in the fingerboard inlays, they are unusual on a oud.
I think that oudmaker do not create their ornaments from scratch, they use the symbols and designs common to their culture. They can be used (with
caution)as graphical "DNA"
The symbols on the fingerboard can be found on kurdish rugs, miniatures and jewellery but also in Turkoman art, Turkoman are not kurds but they are a
minority livin in the region of Arbeel.
Attached is a miniature relative to the traditional medieval kurdish love story : Mem and Zin, the ornamentation looks for me related to the symbols
on the fingerboard.
Just an attempt.....
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Wow...what's with all the outstanding oud finds lately. Never heard of the maker, but it's beautiful. So Pete's going to restore it for you ? Cool. If
you get a chance please post some "after" pictures and sound samples.
Cheers,
Paul
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Andy
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THANK YOU for reducing the picture size.
Faladel, I will take a picture of the label later this evening and post it. I will also post a picture of the back.
Alami, I would have never thought Iraqi Kurd influence especially here in the Boston, Mass area. BTW, That is a very beautiful miniature.
Samir, interesting thought.
PaulO, NO the person, an old friend, who gave me the oud told me that Peter did not want to repair it and was not worth repairing. So, he brought it
to me and asked if I would just reattach the the peg box on the neck to hang on the L/R wall. I did and a few months later he gave to me.
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Andy
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The large rosette was just barely hanging on so I removed it for the label shot.
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more of the label
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the butt end 19 ribs
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Andy
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the neck
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paulO
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Not worth repairing ?? Well, Pete would know..just curious, have you ever put some stings on it just to see what is sounded like ?? A friend gave you
the oud, that's cool.
All the best,
Paul
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The width of the body is 34cm 9mm (30 5/8"), length of the body is 53cm (20 7/8") neck is 20cm 3 mm long (8") width of neck at body is 5cm 4mm (2
1/8") 10 strings.
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Andy
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Paul, just going by what was relayed to me. I am not going to string it up untill it is repaired.
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Hi Andy,
Pretty sensible course of action -- me; I'd have strung it up and been awoke at 2 AM wondering what "that noise was" -- uh, the sound of the bridge
leaving the face maybe...oh no !
Cheers...Paul
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Andy
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I've been tempted to string it up bu I know better. There's enough work to be done on it now, no need in creating more repair work.
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