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hand made and non-hand made Oud
Hi to all,
Is it possible to know the difference between a hand and a non-hand made Oud? Oudmakers make the hand-made Oud and a machine does the non-hand made?
is that's it?
Please explain
Thanks
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Oudism
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wwwwwwooooowww....47 viewers and no one answer
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Brian Prunka
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Hey Oudism,
I think that all ouds are basically hand made, the difference is mainly between made by a luthier and factory-made.
People like Faruk Turunz build each oud themselves (maybe with the help of an apprentice or two), while others have factories where each oud has been
worked on by many different people doing specific jobs (e.g., one person makes the soundboard, one does the braces, etc). Gahwaret al Fan makes
factory ouds (some of which end up being pretty good).
I'm not sure of the details of how various factories work, but that's the general idea.
There aren't any machine-made ouds as far as i know (at least in the sense that there are machine-made guitars and violins). Though people do use
various machines for certain processes (sawing, planing etc.) obviously.
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eliot
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Somehow I doubt those $69 ouds in Unkapani are hand-made in any way at all...
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Jason
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You'd be surprised how cheap labor is in some parts of the world
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You only have to look close to any oud to see that can't be made by machine.
Looking to the uneven strings I even wonder if rules are often used in the arab world.
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farukturunz
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Quote: | Originally posted by Brian Prunka
People like Faruk Turunz build each oud themselves Though people do use various machines for certain processes (sawing, planing etc.) obviously.
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As seen in this picture I am gluing the bridge onto the soundboard of a recently produced oud using my right hand by the help of a unique "Oud Bridge Gluing Clamp" designed and made by my partner
Suat Çetincan
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Oudism
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Thanks for your reply guys
When you ask an Oudmaker about his Ouds, he goes "all my ouds are handmade":d I thought there is a non-hand made Ouds. Next time when you plan to
purchase a Oud, ask if it's a Onehandmade or a mutlihandmade Oud
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Ronny Andersson
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Good one Faruk and indeed interesting tool!
Best wishes
Ronny
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katakofka
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Mr Faruk,
is that the same hand that wanted to kill me???? Thanks God, I saved myself
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Quote: | Originally posted by katakofka
Mr Faruk,
is that the same hand that wanted to kill me???? Thanks God, I saved myself |
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farukturunz
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Quote: | Originally posted by katakofka
Mr Faruk,
is that the same hand that wanted to kill me???? Thanks God, I saved myself |
Come on Souheil Bey! If it had been the same hand -God forbid- probably you would not have posted that line despite how well you saved your self. It
was my left hand which has been suffering from tendinitis for a while.
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farukturunz
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My left hand in a spilint
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farukturunz
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Quote: | Quote: | Originally posted by Mike
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katakofka
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OUCHHHHHH...this is what we call getting lucky:avoiding Mr Faruk's right hand
Please take care of both hands, they're doing marvelous job for lot of people.
Cheers
Souheil
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eliot
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Faruk Bey,
You could advertise truthfully that "all my ouds are made with my right hand exclusively," a claim perhaps no other oud maker could ever make!
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farukturunz
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Now people (me too) seem to have finally found out that how nice joking about is... even if it is a practical joke
...BTW I apologize for the aggressiveness implied in this "practical joke" involuntarily
Souheil Bey, I would like my apology to be accepted chiefly by you though first you pulled my nose
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katakofka
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We have a say in LB" la mhabba illa baad adaawa", which means, "the best
freindship is after a fight". Now I agree there is another way for that, but I have chosen, unententionally, the hard one. The next step would be to convince you, and seeing those hands of yours doing the
best floating bridge Oud.
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farukturunz
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Quote: | Originally posted by katakofka
The next step would be to convince you, and seeing those hands of yours doing the best floating bridge Oud. |
Not totally convinced though
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waaw very nice mr faruk
but is it with three hols or one?
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farukturunz
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Hi my friend!
It has only one hole ...but large enough
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JamesOud
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Didnt Nasseer Shamma invent making a oud with one hand, if not he should claim it pretty quick...
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Jassim
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very good mr faruk im waiting to here his sound
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katakofka
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Great !!!
Would you explain the difference as compared to other floating brigde Oud? Beside the fact that special hands are behind it
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katakofka
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Usta Faruk
You were in the process of builing a floaitng bridge oud. What happened to that Oud and what can you tell about your experience with the floating
bridge Oud?
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