DaveH
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Semai
This is what I really like about this form - very poised and graceful. Lovely instrumental combination too. Does anyone have the sheet music for this
semai?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1AbUUDKRkg&feature=related
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francis
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I entirely agree with you, Dave.
The duet is amazing, with a great sound for the two instruments. The lavta is beautiful, with his simple ornaments, and sound gentle in melody
playing.
Does someone knows who is the maker?
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Amos
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Hi Dave,
Here are the links for the sheet music this beautiful Cevdet Cagla semai. Just copy and paste them and they should take you to the notation. Keep in
mind that this is Turkish notation and needs to be transposed down a perfect fifth if you are playing in Arabic tuning.
part one : http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/acemkurdi/acemkurdi_ss_cevdet_...
part two:
http://www.neyzen.com/images/notalar/acemkurdi/acemkurdi_ss_cevdet_...
Our music is like an ocean...
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Amos
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actually part one is part two and and part two is part one, i just mislabeled them...good luck,
amos
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DaveH
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Amos, sorry, I've been away - what a nice present to come back to! You're a star.
Can anyone explain for someone not so familiar with Turkish music how Acemkurd works? I haven't been able to look this up anywhere in english. I'm
assuming it's a type of hybrid but can't work it out in this piece. I can see Ajam on C but the A-based tonality looks more like lami. And is the B
half flat that crops up regularly integral to the maqam or more of an accidental?
Thanks!
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francis
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Hello.
On the youtube video , I think that they are playing one tone higher than the notes on the sheet....
So it means that after transposing the sheet one fifth down we are playing one sixth under them ....Is-it right like this? I thought that the
transcription is to play in the same tune rather than an adaptation to the different tuning between turkish and arabic oud.....
May be also the lavta is tuned to play in other pitches.....
I ask one more time to know if someone has informations about the maker of that lavta .....
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On post above I wanted to write: " in the same tone ( key...step....) and not "in the same tune".........sorry for this bad english!
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latva
Quote: | Originally posted by francis
I entirely agree with you, Dave.
The duet is amazing, with a great sound for the two instruments. The lavta is beautiful, with his simple ornaments, and sound gentle in melody
playing.
Does someone knows who is the maker? |
C'est vrai Francis, the latva is indeed a beautiful instrument, and just listen to Simla's take on Hijaz:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k31-Yck0X9o&feature=related
Does anyone who made her latva, or any contacts for other good latva makers? regards, MW
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francis
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Thanks for the link, Matthew, but I must have listen and watched every Simla's youtube's clips.......Elle a tout pour plaire, cette fille!!!
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DaveH acemkurdi (in turkish tuning) starts like acem on F, passes through beyati on A and finishes as kurdi on A. The Eb accidental which reminded you
of lami is common for this makam I believe, but maqam lami itself exists only in iraq, and has a different seyir.
Francish the turkish often play one tone higher than what they write. So the semai is written in bayat/kurdi A, but they play it on B. If you
transpose the semai to arabic tuning you would be playing on D, but it would be easier to play it as written, in A.
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francis
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Masel : Thanks for the information. While trying to play the semai with the sheet, I first play in A, but one octave lower than written and to my
opinion it sounds very fine on my oud, from the middle range to the bottom F note.....
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