stos
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Duduk in İstanbul?
Hello everybody!
Sorry ıts not oud related, but there ıs so much people knowıng so much thıngs here that ı thought ıt mıght be a
good ıdea to ask.
After the oud the second ınstrument Im ın love wıth and I want to learn ıs duduk.
Im stıll ın ıstanbul for 2 days and my own research about fındıng duduk player/maker/seller have faıled...
so ıf somebody could help me ıt would be great!
ı heard somebody talkıng about stanbulı duduk luthıer but not more ınfo...
thanks a lot!
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amna.al.hawaj
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Wow I've never heard about this instrument before, it sounds really amazing.. Thanks for the introduction
I just listened to the fist hit I got on this video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW171lfBZVQ
I also have an unrelated question that you might be able to help me with
since you have been shopping around in Istanbul, did you happen to stumble upon any Lavtas?
A friend is going to visit Istanbul soon and I want to ask for one, but I have been told that they are not common at all in music shops... Is that
true?
Sorry if this steers the topic off of the beautiful duduk... Good luck on your search.
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farukturunz
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Hi Stos,
I know a duduk maker in Kartal (at the Anatolian side).
I've seen your post just now (01.15 AM)
Tomorrow I can find his contact information and tell it to you.
You may call me in the morning after 10 from 0532.579.53.12
Regards,
Faruk Türünz
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jiggo
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I also want to know who's the luthier? I will be in Istanbul this summer.
But Faruk abi, you're meaning Duduk and not Mey or Balaban, right?
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farukturunz
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Hi jiggo, stos & amna.al.hawaj!
I telephoned to my friend Süleyman Aslan whose Bağlama workshop "DUTAR" is located next to the Mey, Balaban & Duduk maker Celâl
Ağaç's workshop in Kartal to double check.
Süleyman confirmed that Celâl Usta makes also Duduk but could not affirm if the Usta has got any ready Duduks at the moment. "Celâl Usta has not
come yet to his workshop" Süleyman said, and promised to check and inform me later today if there is any ready Duduk.
Regards
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stos
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wow thanks a lot mıster turunz!
ı cannot fınd the exact adress of thıs Dutar shop
could you maybe post ıt here please?
ps : I tell about lavta when ı have more time...!
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farukturunz
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OK stos...whenever it is convenient for you...
Here is Süleyman Aslan's website link:
http://www.suleymanaslanguitars.com
He also makes Guitars...
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Greg
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A few years ago, I bought a Turkish mey in Antalya.
AFAIK, it is essentially the same instrument as the Armenian Duduk, but with different tuning. I found several music stores in Istanbul, Antalya and
elsewhere that stocked these.
The sound of this instrument is easy to fall in love with. I never cease to be enthralled by it (when played by others).
But playing one requires a better set of lungs than I have. So I struggle to get a few bars out. Good luck with your Duduk journey.
Greg
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em.20
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Duduk and Mey are very similar instruments, but there is a difference concerning the sound. A Mey sounds more harder and smokier. A Duduk has a very
soft and smooth sound. Azarbaijani or Iranian have their Balaban, which nearly sounds like a Duduk.
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Ararat66
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I have a duduk but have never been able to play it - I would love to - it makes a sound like the song of your heart.
Good luck
Leon
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stos
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ararat : I would love to play yours !
I ll try to go tomorrow to thıs maker but my last day ın ıstanbul ıs lıke all other last days everywhere : very busy!!
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em.20
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Is it very hard to play? Can't really imagine that because a Duduk sounds only in one key(means there are Duduk's in different keys), so there are few
holes.
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fernandraynaud
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Duduk is hard to play well for several reasons. Unlike a clarinet or sax, you must play with your cheeks puffed, and with a lot of force. I can play
western woodwinds so-so, but the duduk is demanding on the lungs. Duduk players can play a continuous drone using a circular breathing technique
that's incomprehensible to me. The second reason is that you don't finger "normally" with the fingertips but with the fingers lying across the holes.
This allows you to play microtonally. The reed is tricky too. It has to be stored shut with a special cap, and you must wet it just so, so it opens
up. You use a different length duduk for different keys or maqams, so that's at least manageable, you don't have to use elaborate fingering for
different keys. It's hard to overblow, so it's rather a one octave instrument. At least they don't cost a fortune. And what a sound, it's very
emotional!
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jon-khachaturyan
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Why not to order from Armenia?
Hi, I have ordered some duduk scales from Armenia, and they are really great.
Yep, the duduks is not easy to play, as you need to be good with circulating techniques of breath. For reeds, also there are a lot of headache. The
first you need to open it putting into water for a minute, and then try to play. If it is not opened try again, again and again, but have to be
careful, as it can be overopened, and then you will need to wait something like 5-7 hours.... Really crazy instrument.
The best duduks made of wild apricot wood, and it is very important to get the most of timbre.
There are several sites offers duduks. I have ordered from ethnictune.com and really happy with, especially with A bass sound is really like a sax.
If anybody need any help with this crazy woodwind, let me know....
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Jack_Campin
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Circular breathing is considered an advanced technique, not everybody does it and the instrument can make a great effect without.
It's an easy instrument to sound, once you've got the reed right (easier than a clarinet). The hard bit is getting the intonation good enough.
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FilipHolm
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I play duduk as well. It is a wonderful instrument, no doubt.
Don't know any makers or shops in Istanbul but I do have some contacts if you are interested in ordering it online from Armenia, however. I'm not
entirely sure that I am free to give out e-mail adresses or information here, so I won't just to be sure.
Let me know if you're ever interested though.
Whether or not it is difficult to play all comes down to the reed. There are "Soft reeds" which are fairly easy to play but have a harder, more nasal
sound. The medium or hard reeds require much more air but sound very smooth and soft.
Just like with any instrument it also takes some time to learn the techniques to create that specific "duduk sound" with ornaments, vibrato and so on.
It is a very fun instrument to practice, however, so that was never a problem for me. Just make sure your neighbors are alright with the noise.
Good luck finding an instrument!
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