nouphar
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Greek stuff
Hi guys, I'd like to know where to find greek stuff to practice with oud/cumbus. My instruments are a Haluk Eraydin's OUD3 tuned DGBEAD. I also play a
standard cumbus, now it's tuned ADEADG.
Up to now I've just collected dromoi from websites devoted to bouzouki and tried to play them, but after some months practicing I feel I haven't
reached greek flavour yet. Any clues?
Well, I have some examples of outi playing and just one of cumbus in Greek Music, but I'd like to find more.
Greetings from Spain.
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Benjamin
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Hi Nouphar,
Where did you find your greek stuff so far, do you have any internet site where you can find that?
Thanks
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spyrosc
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Greek Oud Book
I don't know if this is any help to you, but I have a duplicate spare never used copy of the Greek Classic Oud Method "To Outi" by Kyriakos
Kalaitzidis that has a whole bunch of traditional old Greek Oud songs.
Note, however, that he uses the Turkish notation as well as the ancient Byzantine notation.
If you're interested send me a U2U
Spyros C.
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jazzchiss
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Hola Nouphar, yo también 'estoy frigio'.
¿Dónde paras?
Alguien mencionó en este foro esta página http://www.cave31.com/trichordo/trichordo.htm que me parece muy útil.
Saludos.
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mavrothis
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Hola Nouphar,
If you're looking for Greek folk and urban recordings with oud, you should check the following artists as a start. They either play oud or are
singers that have often featured oud in their songs:
Agapios Tompoulis (usually with Antonis Dalgas, Roza Eskenazi, Rita Ampatzi, etc)
Marko Melkon
Kyriakos Kalaitzidis (En Chordais)
Antonis Apergis
Kariofyllis Doitsidis
Nikos & Yiasemi Saragoudas
Xronis Aidonidis
Ksanthippi Karathanasi
Domna Samiou
Pantelis Thalassinos
Nikos Papazoglou
Hristos Tsiamoulis (Dunamis tou Aigaiou)
Thomas Konstantinou (Takim)
There are many more but I can't think of them now. Sheet music for folk music is all around, not specifically for oud usually, but oud is a common
part of folk/urban music of Asia Minor (modern Turkey), Thrace, Makedonia, and many of the Eastern Islands (i.e. Chios, Lesvos).
Hope this helps,
mavrothis
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John Erlich
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Hola Nouphar,
La tienda "Studio 52" en Thessaloniki: http://www.studio52.gr/ (Nunca he comprado on-line, pero visite a la tienda en 2003. Buena coleccion!)
Si visitares a Grecia (y yo lo recomiendo altamente!), usted puede encontrar buenos ejemplos en la tienda "En Chordais" en Thessaloniki: http://www.medimuses.gr/english.html
Tambien, hay las tiendas de musica "Metropolis" con coleccion bastante bien. Yo encontre a un CD de Nikos Saragoudas en la Metropolis en el
aeropuerto de Atenas!
Yo he comprado muchas grabaciones de musica tradicional Media-Oriental en Grecia y Israel. En las tiendas alla, es muy importante a explicar
claramente que prefieres musica tradicional, y, mejor., hablar de instrumentos specificos ("outi," "cumbus," "kanonaki"...).
Buena suerte,
Udi John
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nouphar
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Thank you very much guys for your replies.
Benjamin, here are two examples of what I was referring to,
Anisixo from Notis Sfakianakis (cumbus playing)
and Agali-Agali sung by Giota Vei (outi playing). This last tune was from today's Bulgarian Thrace I think. It's a bride's song. Is this tune also
used for burials? It sounds also sad to me.
Geia sou Spyro, efxarhstw poly for your offer. By now I'm not interested but if so I will send you a U2U.
Hola Jazzchiss, ese link es de un conocido mío de otro foro. Alex es tocador de tzoura y sabe una barbaridad de escalas y modos. Esa página ha sido
uno de mis pilares hasta el momento, pero lo que me falta es obtener el "sabor griego", ya que todos mis taksims, el que más y el que menos, suenan
árabes, lo cual no es que sea malo (la música arábigo andaluza me gusta mucho), pero me gustaría profundizar en la música griega.
Geia sou Mavrothi, I already know some of the great artists you've enlisted above. Agapios Tompoulis, Ksanthippi Karathanasi and Xristos Tsiamoulis.
I've got a song from Karathanasi but no outi/tzoumpous are played. Tsiamoulis appear in recordings about Ottoman Music and in Politiki Kouzina
soundtrack. Efxarhstw poly.
By the way, is this Tompoulis playing a cumbus in a Ntalgas' song? Xisou Gero...
Hey John, thank you for those clues. A recording in which oud appears broadly is in "Primavera en Saloniko", a Savina Yannatou's work which I'm sure
you already know.
Best wishes.
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mavrothis
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Hey,
Yes, I was actually just listening to this song yesterday, and noticed the cumbus sound. I've seen pictures of him with a cumbus like instrument, but
that was made of wood. He apparently had a huge collection of ouds...I wonder what happened to them...
Enjoy,
mavrothis
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kasioti
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greek stuff
Here is another great CD. The singing is with a choir which kind of overwhelms the instrumentation at points, but the oud playing is wonderful.
Here's the link to it:
http://www.cretanmusic.gr/index.php?file=releases&specific=423
The taksimia in the beginning are very beautiful. The Santoor and bouzouki is great in the CD as well. The singing is too.
~ Mixali
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nouphar
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Geia sou Mixali
Geia sou Mixali, efxarhstw.
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