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Saz dimensions?
does anyone own a cura saz (the shorter one) and can give me the bowl and neck dimensions? or any other construction tips would be good since this is
my first one
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I have two curas at home - I'll take measurements and report back...
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Curas which I made have 25-27 cms. of bowls.
From nut to sound bridge 52-54 cms. string lenght.
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thanks! this will be of great help, but now i've gotta go to work, and the saz will have to wait 
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how deep is the bowl? and is the soundhole on the side or on the soundboard, and what effect does this have on sound? sorry for the many questions...
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send e-mail to me for these information.
I will send you pictures also.
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Any new work on the saz?
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Do you mean a different saz model from traditional saz?
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Behind traditional models I make electric and acoustic sazs with mechanical guitar tuners for easy and lasting tune.
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On the saz where the peg box (not really a box, of course) joins the neck, can anybody explain how that joint is made?
Thanks.
David
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Does anyone have tuning charts or information for Cura saz? Just starting and want to be sure we have the right tunings. Also are there any sites with
good information about this instrument?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by abc123xyz
On the saz where the peg box (not really a box, of course) joins the neck, can anybody explain how that joint is made?
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They call it a "wolf's mouth" joint. It's "V" shaped joint where the neck is pointed end and the pegbox has the V carved out of it. Then they glue and
clamp the neck and the peg box. If you look closely at the joint, you'll get a better idea. The fingerboard covers this joint. Hope that helps.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Peyman
They call it a "wolf's mouth" joint. It's "V" shaped joint where the neck is pointed end and the pegbox has the V carved out of it. Then they glue and
clamp the neck and the peg box. If you look closely at the joint, you'll get a better idea. The fingerboard covers this joint. Hope that helps.
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Thank you, Peyman; that does help indeed.
Are the sides of the V-cut angled depthwise in any way, so as to check upward movement of the peg-bearing section, or are the cuts straight, with the
strength of the glue bond alone holding it in place against string tension?
David
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I don't think the string tension is that high, at least not like a guitar. They will cause a bend in the neck eventually.
The cuts are straight, just a nice fitting wedge. Actually with a thick enough neck blank, you don't really have to make a separate peg box. On some
old school saz, the peg box is not anlged at all. Try looking up some Greek saz's.
Check out: Sazadair. It has lots of info (in Turkish). This picture can help you understand. This picture shows the "wolf's mouth" where the neck joins the neck block. The same is done on the other
side with the peg box.
Also youtube has videos of baglama makers in action. Search for "baglama yapimi".
hope that helps,
PB
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| Quote: | I don't think the string tension is that high, at least not like a guitar. They will cause a bend in the neck eventually.
The cuts are straight, just a nice fitting wedge. Actually with a thick enough neck blank, you don't really have to make a separate peg box. On some
old school saz, the peg box is not anlged at all. Try looking up some Greek saz's. |
Yes, I have built a few
instruments like that, but hoped to learn how to make the Turkish-style saz with bent back neck too.
| Quote: | | Check out:Sazadair. It has lots of info (in Turkish). |
That page is a gold mine to me, thank you!
| Quote: | This picture can help you understand. This picture shows the "wolf's mouth" where the neck joins the neck block. The same is done on the other
side with the peg box.
Also youtube has videos of baglama makers in action. Search for "baglama yapimi".
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Yes, I've watched most of those videos, and seen the V-shaped cut, but couldn't tell if
there was some sort of trick to the angle of the cut or not. You've made it all perfectly clear to me now, and I thank you again!
David
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you're welcome friend. There is no tricks. You should cut the V a little wider on the edges where it attaches to the neck so you can cut them to shape
after you glue them (to make the shape smoother as it follows the neck line).
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Does anybody know what test weight of fishing line is used to fret the bağlama?
Is the same weight used on the other sizes of saz: divan, cura, etc.?
David
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0.30 mms. for curas,0.35 for others.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Haluk
0.30 mms. for curas,0.35 for others. |
Thank you, Haluk.
David
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