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[*] posted on 12-11-2007 at 01:55 PM


Thanks everybody! This oud is taking me way longer than I had planned. I recently made some changes to my workshop, and am just finishing it up, so I'll be able to work on Mike's oud more regularly. In fact, I just did some work on it yesterday afternoon. Nothing worth shooting, but I'm making some progress. I'm hoping to have this oud done by late February, when Simon Shaheen is scheduled for a concert in my area. He's supposed to be here for three days doing workshops and lectures, so I may have some video to share with this oud being played by him. That would be fun. I'm also hoping that Brian will be performing with Shaheen, so I can get his much-valued impressions of it as well.

P.S. Here's a little picture from today's midwest ice storm. We were without power for about 6 hours. I watched at least 4 trees, one of them about 18" in diameter, come crashing down in the woods behind my house. The wind is supposed to pick up tonight, so if you all never hear from me again, you'll know one of these giants came through the roof! I have my ouds in hard cases tonight....:D




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[*] posted on 12-11-2007 at 08:44 PM


I love ice storms.
in 1997 we had the biggest one in a while and we had no school for 2 months. right after xmas too!
that was the best.
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[*] posted on 12-12-2007 at 12:36 AM


All danger aside, at least you guys get to have a white Christmas on the other side. We never have a white Christmas :(

Beautiful photo Jameel - not to mention the oud...
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[*] posted on 12-16-2007 at 03:20 PM
Getting close...


Latest update: neck shaped, neck attached to bowl, pegbox attached to neck.








Looking like an oud!





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[*] posted on 12-16-2007 at 06:11 PM


Wow, amazing as usual...:xtreme:
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[*] posted on 12-17-2007 at 05:01 PM


Piiiou Jameel!! B...B...Beautiful! I mean like an aoud, like a Nahat :airguitar:
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[*] posted on 12-17-2007 at 08:44 PM


Lovely work guy, very understated and elegant. Way to go.

Regards..PaulO
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[*] posted on 12-18-2007 at 02:33 AM


Hi Mike, thats an elegant looking oud my friend I hope it brings you more luck;) and prosperity for the new year, you deserve it all buddy for creating this outstanding community :bowdown::bowdown:

Jameloo the man, another gem in your crown and tis one is a big diamond one. If I get some of Mike's luck at poker I be next one your customers list :cool: :cool: :cool:

By the way Jameel I think you're a master of photography too specially oud one, I always liked your clear and detailed photos, thanks a million man.

best regards to you all,

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[*] posted on 12-29-2007 at 07:04 PM
Bracing


Jameelo decided to build a go-bar clamping deck to do the bracing. It allowed him to have access to the edges to clean off any excess glue. In a nutshell, he just presses the glued brace into position, holds for a moment, then springs the bars into position. No need to fiddle with clamps. Good stuff.





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[*] posted on 12-30-2007 at 11:32 AM


Jameel, your work inspires me so much--I look forward to each post on this thread as if the oud were my own.
About the go bars--
What type of wood is that? I've seen go-bars that can be ordered, made out of synthetic material, but it looks like you are using real wood (almost looks like walnut). Do that work just as well, or do you think it is worth ordering the synthetic go-bars?
Mike, you are a lucky man.




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[*] posted on 12-30-2007 at 06:48 PM


Thanks everybody! This oud is taking me longer than any I've done so far, and I'm paying for it too. Best to make these things quickly. Letting parts sit about while we do our "real" day-to-day work is not wise. Parts that I fit this summer are now too loose, even though I keep my shop conditioned, and the humidity always stays within 20% +/-. Maybe that's too much. In a perfect world our shops are always 50% humidity, right?

Anyways, rant officially over!

Jonathan, I feel the same about your posts. I enjoy them. It seems you are a lot faster than me. Maybe I'm too tedious? I almost feel like making rustic furniture for a while to give the brain a rest.;)

The go bars are oak and some other grainy wood. I just grabbed a board from my shelf that looked relatively straight-grained and started ripping. I think the best wood is ash, since it's springy but strong. The square cross section is probably not the best since it's a bit squirley depending on how it wants to twist around, but I wanted to get this done. I'll probably make some nicer ones eventually. I've read about guys using fiberglass kite spars. That seems like a good idea. I hate buying this kind of stuff from lutherie houses since they usually gouge you. The big box store here has fiberglass rods for marking the edges of your driveway--for the snow plow guy--can't imagine you could get those in your area! But they are like $2 each. That's like $100 for 50 bars. Too much! The wood works fine. In fact, I think a real good choice would be a nice straight thin branch since the grain is guaranteed straight. There's probably a lot of info on the web about go-bars. This is really a quick and dirty one I made.

EDIT: I should mention that the top of the deck should be Baltic Birch plywood or a double layer of MDF or softwood ply. A single layer of 3/4" MDF is too weak. I had to clamp a 2x4 to the top once all the bars were in place. That's a lot of pressure!! It was deflecting like 1" over 20".

I found some fiberglass rods here: http://www.intothewind.com/shop/Repair_and_Kitemaking/Fiberglass_Ro...

way cheaper than lmii or stewmac




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[*] posted on 12-30-2007 at 07:32 PM


Lovley work and lovley workshop......

and what caught my attention is the view out the window....It's so beautiful, and inspiring.

I'm sitting here typing this post with 42 degree heat pouring through my window. I'm not a big fan of the heat :(
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[*] posted on 12-31-2007 at 03:40 AM


wow- jameel- your so "crafty" with the photos too- making it look easy, its like "the saw goes right here and watch as the oud comes alive!" like sea monkeys- haha- beautiful work and a happy new year

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[*] posted on 12-31-2007 at 04:37 AM


Jameel, your ouds take longer because they are masterpieces. Insallah, they will be revered for generations to come.
Thanks for the tips on the gobars. I have to start building my platform.




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[*] posted on 12-31-2007 at 05:21 AM


Great photos. Looks chilly out there. Are you using hide glue for the braces?
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[*] posted on 12-31-2007 at 06:11 AM


Thanks Tariq and Jonathan.

I didn't use hide glue for these braces. But what a perfect way to use hide glue. With regular clamps, almost impossible before it gels, but with these, you can press the brace in place then get the bars in position in a few seconds.




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[*] posted on 12-31-2007 at 06:12 AM


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Lovley work and lovley workshop......

and what caught my attention is the view out the window....It's so beautiful, and inspiring.

I'm sitting here typing this post with 42 degree heat pouring through my window. I'm not a big fan of the heat :(


I'll trade you. I'm so tired of walking to my shop like a penguin on ice. I can't count the times I almost bit the dust.




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[*] posted on 12-31-2007 at 06:17 AM


Cool! I forgot to add that the subject of the photos looks great, too. Outstanding!
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[*] posted on 12-31-2007 at 11:10 AM


Jameel, what can I say, but thanks for all the updates -- I appreciate the artistry involved in the building of the insturments as much as the finished product. Good with the ice dancing :D

Happy New Year...Paul
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[*] posted on 12-31-2007 at 09:53 PM


Jameel - done deal!

One condition - the trade in comes with all the skills, artistry and craftsmanship :D


Happy New Year!

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[*] posted on 1-8-2008 at 07:56 PM
More progress....


Braces are set, pickguard and bridge are done...





Next came a decision on the pickguard design. After a number of emails back and forth...thanks for the patience Jameelo...we were in between these two.


Finally, we decided to go with a design that is on Hamza el-Dinn's oud.


Here's a shot of the pickguard (this is the backside of it) and completed bridge, followed by a frontal shot of the soundboard.





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[*] posted on 1-8-2008 at 10:17 PM


Hello Mike
Working very, very wonderful l
I want to know about the thickness soundboard and the thicknes for bridge and High

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[*] posted on 1-9-2008 at 06:23 AM


Ya walad!!!
that simply gorgeous Jameel keep it up.
your fantastic
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[*] posted on 1-9-2008 at 12:59 PM


Thanks fellas.

Got the pickguard and bridge glued on today.

It's coming together....




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[*] posted on 1-11-2008 at 07:45 AM


Is it me - or is the central soundhole enormous? It looks fantastic and it really dominates the entire sound board.

Mike is going to be one lucky guy owning this oud!
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