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AOUDLOVER
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You are Dear alan_mardan
Dear alan_mardan you are right in what you say. I get my oud by this way from albasra,, i payed for this oud 1500$ With shipping.. the oud was not
from Thabet and not from karim.. form another big oudmaker i will not write his name here,, beacuse i do not like to make a bad idee about him.. i was
dreaming to get a oud form this person and i called thabet and told him that i like to get oud from this person ,, he helped me and giving me the
telefon nr for this man. i ordered my oud for 1200 $ plus 300$ transport with TNT.. i did the same like you (calling many time). he made the oud
really in the exactly 2 weeks,, and i called him many time please care about shipping.. he told yesi did donot worray,.,, and at the end i got the
oud brocken,, i was very sad. and i called him and tell him that the oud is broken.he told me .. he is ready for evry thing.. he can do what i wish
. if i like to take the mony back his ready to do this. he told me just tell me what you wish form me,, and i do what you say.. you know i feel it
is not his mistak 100% the sitauation in iraq is very bad and i did with him another deal that he make another oud for just the cost of the material
and his work hours and no profit,, he agree and i orderd the oud again.. now the oud ready in albasra but i do not know how i can brign the oud to
here with no problem..
when i take about thabet.. i do not like that a person show only the bad things form thabet,, this is not fair.. thabet make really a very good ouds,,
i saw by my self a oud in egypt with a oud teacher which work with mr.Nasser and the oud looks very nice and sound very nice..
for this i am not agree that we show only the bad works from a person we need to show both,, the bad and also the nice and the good work.
sorry that i write you long. but it nice to write you.. and sorry what happend for your oud,, i feald the same feeling last month.
i wish you a good time and nice to hear from you agian.
kind regards to you and to all members
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SamirCanada
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if you live in Egypt why do you bother ordering a oud all the way from Iraq.
You can find nice Iraqi style ouds in Egypt.
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AOUDLOVER
Oud Maniac
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i live in switzerland
Hallo Mr. Samir no i am from egypt but i live the whole year in switzerland, i go only one week or 2 weeks in a year in holiday..but i did not find in
egypt iraqi works, i mean oud from iraqi oudmakers,, it was egyption makers who do the iraqi stile..
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alan_mardan
Oud Addict
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Dear oud lover
I agreee with you but i mentioned that he might be a very good oud maker as he sounds so kind as well. I said that he shouln't recomend me that oud
maker but he wanted to help me. he is a very nice person and i have not tried his ouds yet but am sure he could make a good oud as he is so known in
Iraq. The fact is that he told me Karim al fathel is my student. its why am so dissapointed with him, cause he is his studen then how is the teacher.
any way i just wanted to empty my unger a bit.
Regards to you and all of the forum
Alan
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SamirCanada
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the floating bridge design was invented by Mohamed Fadhel but it doesn't mean that only Iraqi Luthiers are able to make the floating bridge ouds.
I tried ouds from Foad Jihad and Fauzi Monshed.
I didnt like them as much as the oud made for my friend by maurice shehata in egypt.
check the oud out.
it was a real pleasure to play it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhBXyCIsZ0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4sNUgzlcGA
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Jassim
Oud Junkie
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Registered: 12-29-2007
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dear samir dont waist your time 
this gay take arownd to all fourms and say the same word about thabet as he say he give him 5000 $
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ARAB_MUSIC-PA
Oud Admirer
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why you go between Samir and OUDLOVER
Jassim the gay write his idee and he say we need to show the good work and the bad work from the oud makers,, he is right and fair,, but are unpolite
person, it can not be that you are musicer.. the person who play music must feel the others.
he ask samir why you go between samir and the OUDLOVER,, is this not your business... i think you need to learn how you cuminicat with people.
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ARAB_MUSIC-PA
Oud Admirer
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تعلم من سمير و عودلافر
جاسم لقد تابعت
الحوار الطويل عن ثابت لم
يدافع عن ثابت انما قال
انني يجب ان نظهر العمل
الجيد والغير جيد للصانع
ولا نذكر دائما العمل
السئ اما انت فانك انسان
غير مهذب لا تجيد الحوار
وتستخدم الفاظ لا تليق
باسلوب الحوار المتحضر
فما دخلك انت بينة وبين
الاخ سمير فانظر كيف دار
الحوار بينو بين سمير
حوار كلة ادب وحب واحترام
فتعلم منهم ولا تحشر نفسك
بينهم فواللة ما اراك الا
فتان بين الناس فاتقي
اللة فيما تقول
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Jassim
Oud Junkie
Posts: 212
Registered: 12-29-2007
Location: Kuwait
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ماشالله رحت سويت نك جديد
مامليتو من النصب على
المساكين؟؟
ياتوني يوميا شباب يقولون
لي انه تم النصب عليهم من
قبل هذا الصانع
هل تريد ان اريك الاعواد
التي دفعو فيها مبالغ
تزيد عن 2500 $ وكانت في حاله
سيئه وكاتب على وجه العود
اشعار وكاتب انا المعجز
والفنان؟؟
اقول حاول ان تنصب على ناس
اخرين
نحن ندري من تكون وياثابت
لاتتنكر باسماء اخرى
وتكذب وتقول ان صور
الاعواد هذي بالبصره وهيه
كانت بحولي في محل عود
ومرواس لصاحبه راشد
الرشيد وانت كنت عامل
لديه
لماذا تنكر فظل الناس
عليك؟
وتقول انا احسن صانع
اعواد بالعالم
لماذا لم تقل لهم انك
توقفت عن الصناعه لمده
عشرين عام؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
يا ناس تعلمو
لقد توقع عن الصناعه بعام
1983
ولم يصنع اي عود
ورجع للصناعه بسنه 2004
يعني توقف 21 سنه ثم رجع
ويقول انا احسن صانع
اعواد بالعالم
لو كنت احسن صانع بالعالم
كما تقول لماذا توقفت عن
الصناعه؟؟؟
لماذا حرمت العالم من
اعوادك التحف المعجزه؟
هل لان لم يشتريها احد؟؟
او كانت مستواها فوق
مستوى العازفين؟
بالعقل يا اخوان
هل هناك صانع جيد وكان في
عز الصناعه يقول لا اريد
ان اصنع اعواد وتوقف 21
سنه؟؟
واحد وعشرين سنه يا اخوان
وياتي الان ويلغي كل
الصانعين الذين ظهرو
وطورو ويقول انا استاذ
الاساتذه ويظع شعارات
العود الملكي والعود
الاميري وعود
الشيوخ؟؟؟؟
وانا لا اصنع للعازفين
العاديين؟؟؟؟؟؟
يجب ان يكونو شيوخ
واماراء؟؟؟
والان اسالك
انت تقول انك عملت عود
للامير الكويت؟؟
هل هوه صحيح لدى امير
الكويت؟؟
وتقول انك صنعت عود لحاكم
دبي؟؟
هل هوه لدى حاكم دبي ام فقط
هيه شعارات لجذب المساكين
ممن ليست لديهم اي خبره
بالعود؟؟
يا عالم شوفو والله ترى لا
يوجد عند الامير عود من
ثابت
ولا حاكم دبي عنده
هيه فقط دعايه حتى يجذب
العالم ويدفعو الاف
الدولارات لديه بحكم انه
صانع الامراء والملوك
عيب عليك والله
انا اول مره اشوف صانع
يعمل الامور هذي
واذا لم تصدقوني يا اخوان
اذهبو الى اليوتيب وانظرو
ماذا يكتب
عود الاميري
عود الملوك
عود الشيوخ
عود الاعجاز
ولكم انتم الحكم
لماذا لم يظع عود الفقير
الي على قد حاله؟؟؟
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AOUDLOVER
Oud Maniac
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Location: Switzerland
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Hallo Jassim, Hallo ARAB_MUSIC-PA .please i do not like that i am the reason that every one fight with other.. and Jassim Samir ask me why i did not
buy from egypt and i answerd him. so it not nice from you my dear to write samir (do not waste you time with me) i did not ask samir for some thing
he asked me..
and be sure i donot like to waste your time or the time for samir.. so please my dear do not fight with ARAB_MUSIC-PA
and ARAB_MUSIC-PA please do write more against or attaked Jassim. Jassim write some thing about me.. and i can write him if like..
so my freinds have a nice times, kind regards to all.
And Samir i am sorry that i wiste your time..
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fyenix
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great, now we got arabic writings involved! translation plz anyone?
thanks in advance
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alan_mardan
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Dear Samircanada
The foating oud was invented in Iraq but it doesn't mean it can only be made there. i bilieve that makers from other countries can even make it better
than iraqi makers. I have just recieved one from iraq and it's rubish. Some of them just advertise for them self and still dont know how to constuct
an oud.
Regards
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SamirCanada
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thats what I was saying Alan-mardan,
I am with you 100%
you didnt waste my time. I just asked why you insist on having a oud from Iraq when its so risky now to get one from there.
Most of Nasser Shamma's students get their ouds from Egypt.
i am sure the situation is hard in Iraq now to make ouds.
so anyone working there to make it is probably working under a lot of stress.
If I know it took someone 15 days to make the oud I know there is a problem.
I know even if the maker is very good he cannot only make your oud right away and 15 days is not enough time really to make something high quality.
Only the very best oud makers can make them so fast and it needs for them to have a lot of machinery in order to make them faster.
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oudplayer
Oud Junkie
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Registered: 5-9-2004
Location: new jersey/ Israel
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just wanna poke my head in and say hello
we are lost camels in the desert and wanna find our way to water and the water is in aden
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alajib
Oud Admirer
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الله الله عليك أستاذ
ثابت ما أكبر حلمك على
الحساد والحاقدين
فالصراخ على قدر الألم
(( ولو كل كلب عوى __ القمتــه
حجـــرآ لأصبح مثقال
الحجر بدينار ))
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Jassim
Oud Junkie
Posts: 212
Registered: 12-29-2007
Location: Kuwait
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alajib
i have seen your email and its say that are you the smol sun for thabet
you must say my father not my teacher
good job
and i dont think that you are saqr i must say hi thabet
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Marina
Oud Junkie
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This Thabet looks beautiful!
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alajib
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أن كنت أنا أبن الأستاذ
ثابت كما تظن فهو حق مشروع
له بالرد عليك _وأن كنت
ثابت نفسه فأعتقد جازمـآ
مو يترفع بالرد عليك وعلى
كلامك الذي تبين فيه قدر
نفسك _ وكما تدعي أنك فنان
_وأن كنت أخاه أو صديقه أو
أحد معجبيه فسوف أتابعك
في كل مكان وأسمعك من
الكلام ما يكدر خاطرك
فأنت تستحق
أن يتطاول عليك كل أنسان
ذو خلق __ فأن كان بيتك من
زجاج _فلا ترمي الناس
بالحجارة _وكما أتهمت ARAB_music
بأنه هو ثابت فستظل في
دوامة الهواجس دون أن
تعرف كم هم من يعتز بثابت
البصري وفنه وأخلاقه وهم
من خيرة الناس ويردون
عليك بالبرهان وصدق
المنطق _ وليس بالكذب
والخديعة والتدليس كما
تفعل _
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Jassim
Oud Junkie
Posts: 212
Registered: 12-29-2007
Location: Kuwait
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hehehehehehe
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alajib
Oud Admirer
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تضحك لأنك سخيف وأحمق ..يا
بؤسك وقلة حيلتك ..
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charlie oud
Oud Junkie
Posts: 694
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Location: Newcastle upon tyne. UK
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(~~~','~~#-#~~<,.,'''~;~#~^*^~*~~) Translation= Howdy. Hey you native
oudfolk, any chance of letting us English speakers know what you are talking about?, sorry, but to most of us it looks like this post has been invaded
by ants, rather pretty ones though, I must say. 
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AOUDLOVER
Oud Maniac
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Please who write arabic must write english too
Hallo All for all they write arabic..pleas write a english text too. that the other friends can understand the story,. thanks all. kind regards
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AOUDLOVER
Oud Maniac
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Why you carry in the foto Thabet Oud!??
الاخ جاسم اذا كنت لا تحب
اعواد ثابت وتقول انة
ينصب عليك. لماذا تحمل في
هذة الصورة عود من اعواد
ثابت.؟ هل
ارغمك ثابت علي حمل
اعوادة والتصوير بها؟
Dear Jassim
If you do not like Thabet ouds,, and you say he is very bad oudmaker,, and play on many people with mony,, why you carry a oud from thabet in this
foto.. and i think thabelt do not orderd you to carry this oud.. you carried by your self and you took a pic.. for this i understand you not......
thanks with kind regards
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alhajery
Oud Admirer
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اخي جاسم
يقول المثل العربي
الشهير
اذا اتتك المسبة من ناقص
فتلك الشهادة .... والبقية
كملها يا استاذ جاسم
وما تعمله وما تفعله من
تشهير لاينفع بسمعة
الاستاذ ثابت البصري
وشهادة الغير خير برهان
فيا اخي دع عنك الغيرة
والحسد والاستاذ ثابت كان
وما زال فنان العود
الاصيل قبل ان تلدك امك
فاشغل بالك بامور جميلة
وجيدة ونافعة خير لك من
هذه الامور التي لايعملها
الا طفل غيور
والعاقبة للمتقين
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alhajery
Oud Admirer
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نسيت اقلك يا بو محمد
ترى موقع الاستاذ ثابت
البصري مفتوح للجميع وما
عمله الاستاذ
الا حتى يخلي كل علمه
ومفهومه بالعود امام
الجميع
والموقع واضح وباين للكل
وهو قبل هذا كان ينشر
اعماله بموقع زرياب
بس لله الحمد لما فتح
موقعه زاده من علمه وخلاه
مجلة وكتاب للجميع
وكمان بغيت اقلك ان
الحساد والبغاض ما ينفع
عملها شي http://www.albsryuod.com/vb
لان القافلة تسير والكلاب
تعوي
ونسأل الله الهداية لنا
ولكم ولامة المسلمين
اخوك الهاجري
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