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Ararat66
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Godin Multioud
Anyone try one of these
http://www.godinguitars.com/godinwhatsnewp.htm
Cheers from a snowy south of England
Leon
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nayoud
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They look interesting ... they've been talked about for sometime on the unfretted forum but they're not for sale before NAMM 2011 gotta wait !
Hisham
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Sasha
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Well, I lost all interest with his comment about pegs being a nightmare - it's an interesting instrument, but falling back on that hoary old canard
for marketing purposes?
Nope, deal breaker.
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spyros mesogeia
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WHAT ABOUT THE PRICES ABOUT THOSE INSTRUMENTS?
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Ararat66
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Hi folks
Well I'll be honest with you - I love innovation etc but to me the magic of the oud resides in no small part to its hand-made nature, so I don't
really see this as intrinsically an oud - but nonetheless it does look an interesting instrument that allows for 'oudiness' to be expressed well. A
friend of mine passed this on to me so I have passed in on to you - the experts
I have to say that both my ouds stay in tune very well, I have Haluk intermediate, and my lovely Tasos oud so tuning isn't an issue really.
I'd love to try a fretless guitar at somepoint also.
Cheers
Leon
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Sazi
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IMHO It's not an oud, it's not even an oud-shaped object, and I don't think it sounds much like an acoustic oud either, and as for the chambered
body... well it looks to be roughly the same size (i.e. weight) as their multiac guitars, I've tried the top-of-the-line Multiac nylon string... I
absolutely loved it... but for 2 things... 1) It weighed a ton! 2) It was way out of my price league.
Although I actually like the way it sustains "forever" I can see that being a problem with a lot of traditional tunes and/or playing styles.
I agree that it does allow for expression of 'oudiness' , certainly more so than a fretless guitar, in my hands, at least... totally different
instruments/feels/tunings.
I think my oud playing could quite easily become very avant garde/arty-farty with one of these... 
Why do I want one?!
I don't have any tuning problems with my pro ouds whatsoever, all ebony pegs too, which people seem to dis, in fact I rarely ever need to tune, but I
do remember my cheap Turkish student and amateur oud-shaped horrors, slipping pegs, sticking pegs, the damn things were like barometers, and needed
tuning numerous times a day, but this instrument will be priced in the pro range and should be able to have perfectly good oud-style pegs/pegbox,
maybe at a shallower angle like the Nevud. http://www.veyselmuzik.com/eng/nevud.php
Leon, just do what I did for my EBow guitar,- buy a cheap secondhand guitar and rip the frets out, if you heat the frets with a soldering iron they
come out cleaner with little or no tear-out, and if you then run a bit of sandpaper over the neck you don't even need to fill the slots. You will also
need to file the nut down, I ended up making a new lower one, the old one was plastic and anyway it was good practice.
It's a cheap way to find out if you actually like the thing.
I bought a short scale so it was closer to oud length.
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abusin
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Hi Folks,
Indeed it's an intersting instrument worth a try Leon
There is another Godin one on UK ebay if you go 50/50 we can share it
Godin guitar/ Nylon
Best Regards
Awad
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Kelly
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Hey Awad I know you've gt a fever but I'm calling the doc right now!!
Kelly
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Peyman
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Does any of you guys play fretless nylon/classical guitar?
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abusin
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Kelly you know my randyness when I see anything wearing strings
Come on then Leon did not reply are you on for a 50/50?
Best Regards
Awad
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abusin
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Hi Peyman,
I tried one nylon/ classical guitar "not aGodin" 15 years ago and I loved it, If I can afford this one I won't hesitate
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Awad
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Ararat66
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Hi Awad
What's in the Madchester water
I'm only a little tempted but wouldn't mind trying fretless guitar, the Godins look very nice. I have to say I have so far to go on oud that I ought
to concentrate on that get a few more pieces under my fingers.
Have a great New Year
Leon
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abusin
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Hi Leon Manchester is COLD man 
wish you and your folks all the best for Xmas and new year
best luck with your quest
Best Regards
Awad
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mavrothis
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This seems like a nice innovation. Not so different than my friend Drew's hollow body electric oud: http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=11349
The main difference is the electronics and the cutaway (and Drew's electric is very light weight).
m
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Peyman
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Quote: Originally posted by abusin  |
Hi Peyman,
I tried one nylon/ classical guitar "not aGodin" 15 years ago and I loved it, If I can afford this one I won't hesitate |
Oh Yes, I meant to ask if anyone has played their (Godin's) fretless. Hopefully it's not too pricy
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Ararat66
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Hi Folks
Awad, I was in Manchester the other week only for one night at Kelly's - hope to see you soon buddy, have a great New Year.
Hi Peyman - I'd love to try the glissantar, particularly as it is double-strung in 6 courses like oud. An acoustic version would be nice ... if I had
time I'd make one myself.
Best wishes
Leon
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nayoud
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Peyman
Godin's multiac series are great ... good build ... I haven't tried their glissentar though ....the only thing that stopped me from buying one was
string availability .... does anybody kow how much this new oud will cost ? These Godin's are usually not cheap unlike their electric guitars,
seagull and simon & Patrick brands...
Hisham
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Peyman
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Leon, I forgot all about the glissentar. They actually have a fretless classical which I kind of like. Single strings and double strings change the
way one plays. It's much harder to pull some of the repertoire with double strings. That's why I only use 6 strings on my cumbus.
I should mention that I converted a cheap classical guitar (made in korea) once by taking off the original fretboard (which was dyed soft wood) and
putting a fretless one in its place. The guitar itself was low quality so it didn't work out the way I was hoping for. But it's a nice toy.
But these Godin guys are relentless. I think They're making all the possible combinations. My guess is that they'll produce more eastern inspired
instruments once their oud takes off.
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Aymara
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It's great ... LISTEN ... but even better with Thomastik Infeld flatwound strings.
Only downside is, it comes with guitar tuning.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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Peyman
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Chris, It sounds really nice. I wonder how hard it would be to make one...
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Aymara
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It's not easy, because it is a chambered closed body ... similar to chambered electric guitars in general.
The neck is less hassle, because it is like a regular 12-string neck ... just fretless and missing one tuning peg 
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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Brian Prunka
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A chambered solid body is much much easier to make than a traditional oud body. No bending, no planing (after the initial slab of wood is planed).
You just cut out the shape and rout the chambers.
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Aymara
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It's not so easy as it sounds
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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Brian Prunka
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Of course it requires some skill, but it is certainly much easier than making any kind of true hollow body guitar or an oud bowl.
It's also something that can be done almost entirely by CNC machines, which is not (yet) possible for an oud or hollow body guitar.
Point being, it is cost-saving from a manufacturing standpoint, not something that would make it more expensive (unless you're comparing to a simple
solid body electric oud like Sukar etc.).
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Peyman
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On top of what Mr. Prunka said, it's even easier because you don't have to deal with fret installations. I am not savy with electric instruments but
what I've read the shape of the chamber is important in holoowbodies. Or if it's bent sides, there is a block inserted into the instrument that
affects the tone. So some experience is required. Otherwise it would be a nice project for someone...
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