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[*] posted on 6-16-2010 at 08:53 AM


Hello, today again progress ...

- french polishing is moving towards the end
- the rosette is now here (see the raw form before the cleaning ...
- the rosette is now cleaned and glued in - so the bowl is now closed.:)

Tomorrow the oud will be finished and stringed - and I (howl howl) will be working the whole day from morning to evening, no way I could play it tomorrow ...:(

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[*] posted on 6-18-2010 at 08:47 AM


Dear oud friends ... the oud is ... almost ... ready!

Only minor cosmetic works on the varnish have to be finished and left some time for drying up ...

Today the first strings were put on the Oud ...

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[*] posted on 6-18-2010 at 08:51 AM


Then Sebastian Stenzel tuned very slowly up until we had a minor third below the standard tuning. He wants to make sure that the structure grows accustomed slowly to the full tension of the oud. So, the strings being Daniel Mari strings plus Aquila high f, everything is quite slack yet; though the sound is more than promissing.

The Sebastian Stenzel played the first notes ...

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[*] posted on 6-18-2010 at 08:53 AM


Then I was also able to play it for the first time ... I wouldn't like to give it out of my hands, but it still needs some time ...


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[*] posted on 6-18-2010 at 08:54 AM


It's a great pleasure ...

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[*] posted on 6-18-2010 at 08:57 AM


Here are some detail pictures:

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[*] posted on 6-18-2010 at 08:59 AM


Here is the junction between body and neck ...

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[*] posted on 6-18-2010 at 10:38 AM


Congratulations to this beauty!

I'm curious to hear it.




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[*] posted on 6-18-2010 at 01:25 PM


Oud looks stunning. Congratulations and play in good health.!



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[*] posted on 6-21-2010 at 12:25 AM


Yesterday I visited in Sebastian Stenzels workshop and played the oud a bit (it's still 'under observation and final cosmetic treatment); my wife and also Sebastians wife were present and everybody was deeply impressed how much the instrument is opening even during one little playing session. It has so rich harmonics ... just mindblowing.

It's really like meeting a fascinating new person and getting them to know better and better ... an amazing process in both directions ...

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[*] posted on 6-21-2010 at 12:36 AM


Quote: Originally posted by rojaros  
... the instrument is opening even during one little playing session.


I think, this process will continue for about half a year, until the oud reaches it's "final" sound characteristics.

Have fun exploring it ;)




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[*] posted on 6-21-2010 at 06:11 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Aymara  
Quote: Originally posted by rojaros  
... the instrument is opening even during one little playing session.


I think, this process will continue for about half a year, until the oud reaches it's "final" sound characteristics.

Have fun exploring it ;)


That's a fascinating process ... I didn't have that with my other ouds (at least nothing that much noticeable) ...

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[*] posted on 6-21-2010 at 08:23 AM


Quote: Originally posted by rojaros  
I didn't have that with my other ouds (at least nothing that much noticeable) ...


I got my oud last November, when it was just a few weeks old and though it already sounded great, it's sound became better from week to week. Many people here in the forums reported a similar experience with their ouds.

I bet, you'll really fall in love with this oud ... don't forget to record it for us ;)




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[*] posted on 6-22-2010 at 03:22 AM


Hello everybody, so the oud is finally at my home and I started to investigate it more seriously.
It has an amazing sound already and I think it will open more and more.

I have to do some experimentation with strings. The first set I put on is a Daniel Mari set plus aquilla high f, and the trebles are good, but the bass part is quite on the low tension side.

When I get mor aquainted with the oud I'll post some recordings. I'm also going to provide some final pictures.

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[*] posted on 6-22-2010 at 09:40 AM


Hi again, Robert!

Quote: Originally posted by rojaros  
I think it will open more and more.


I bet, you can count on it.

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I have to do some experimentation with strings.


I think a Porsche oud should have Mercedes strings ;)

Maybe check out, what Kürscher has to offer. He will produce strings especially for your oud's dimensions and to your liking (tuning and tension), if you ask him.




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[*] posted on 6-22-2010 at 10:35 AM


Thanks for advice, Chris!

I'll go slowly about strings; one can easily shoot out a lot of money in experimenting with strings. I still have some other sets lying around, Mari certainly is the lightest I have.

But I might come back to Kürscher.

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[*] posted on 6-23-2010 at 11:10 PM


Hello everybody,

you might be interested in a larger photo documentation of the whole building process, which can be found here:

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please anjoy the pictures

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[*] posted on 6-24-2010 at 01:11 PM


Hi Robert

Wonderful pictures and interesting record of that process- an instrument coming to life!. The bowl is fantastic- what sort of finish was used? the face is beautifully understated I esecially like the light touch on the purfling.
Cant wait to hear it.
I too would agree on Kurschners. I think they really sing




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[*] posted on 6-24-2010 at 08:36 PM


Hi Kelly,

The bowl, neck and peg box are french polished (some kind of shellack polishing Sebastian Stenzel is also using for his guitars). He did a lot of studies of 19th century shellack techniques and the results are very beautifull.

These Kürscher strings, are they nylon or fluorocarbon?

Thanks anyway. I'll see to it to record something as sson as I get to it. Also want to play the instrument in a bit and get acquainted with the neck, before I record.

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[*] posted on 6-24-2010 at 09:42 PM


Hi again!

Quote: Originally posted by rojaros  
He did a lot of studies of 19th century shellack techniques and the results are very beautifull.


Yes, shellack jobs are an art ... I saw several Youtube videos, which show, how difficult it is.

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These Kürscher strings, are they nylon or fluorocarbon?


He switched to PVF for the standard sets, but I bet you can also get nylon, if you ask. Look HERE ... you even can get gut strings on request.

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Also want to play the instrument in a bit and get acquainted with the neck, before I record.


It might be interesting to show us two recordings ... one right now and one in a few months, which will show the development of it's sound.

BTW ... interesting photo gallery, which shows, that the master is satisfied with his work ;)




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[*] posted on 6-25-2010 at 12:04 PM


I have done some filming today, so I'll post it very soon. I'll let everybody know as soon as its uploaded.

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Robert

PS In a few months distance also my playing and acquaintance with the new oud will have developed. It's qiote a switch to 7 courses and a longer scale. I do have my problems with intonation and knowing which floor I just am at ...;)
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[*] posted on 6-25-2010 at 12:10 PM


Rojaros: do you know, exactly how is the neck joined to the bowl?
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[*] posted on 6-25-2010 at 04:33 PM


Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud  
Rojaros: do you know, exactly how is the neck joined to the bowl?


Sorry, haven't been present at that stage, but I think Sebastian used some european lute techniques he is quite knowledgeable about. The only thing I know for sure is that there are no screws involved - he mentioned that to me.

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[*] posted on 6-26-2010 at 02:13 AM


Hello, here is the first glimps of the new Sebsatian Stenzel Oud:

The New Sebstian Stenzel Oud

It's not even one week old and, of course not played in at all; also I do have still a way to go for me to come to terms the the slightly longer scale than my turkish Copcuoglu and the seven courses (though I really wouldn't want to miss them anymore).

Hope you get a flavour of how wonderfully rich the sound is -though very well rooted in the arab sound tradition!

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[*] posted on 6-26-2010 at 10:06 AM


Quote: Originally posted by rojaros  
... here is the first glimps ...


Veeery nice, Robert :applause:




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