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[*] posted on 5-25-2011 at 02:32 AM


:applause::applause::applause:



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[*] posted on 5-25-2011 at 02:48 AM


Thank you danny and Awad

Edward, Khalid is building ouds for more than 40 years, his father was also a luthier. He is a master luthier in every word. his ouds come out like from Factory like robots. he make the ouds himself, no little children helping etc. he does sharpen often using a professional shrpener. I don't know th ename but if you look at dick.biz you could find it.





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[*] posted on 5-25-2011 at 03:00 AM


Quote: Originally posted by sabbassi  
Thank you danny and Awad

Edward, Khalid is building ouds for more than 40 years, his father was also a luthier. He is a master luthier in every word. his ouds come out like from Factory with robots. he make the ouds himself, no little children helping etc. he does sharpen often using a professional shrpener. I don't know th ename but if you look at dick.biz you could find it.



Yeah Khalid is amazing... I remember watching him just take an exacto knife and cut FREEHAND perfect things like purfling channels etc... I just couldn't believe it :-) ...and such a gentle and humble man also :-)





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[*] posted on 6-9-2011 at 09:52 AM
So Far


Sawing ebony ribs from the external purfling around the bow.
the internal strips are black/white/black/white + one wider black ebony


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[*] posted on 6-9-2011 at 09:54 AM
Progress


Preparing the ebony fingerbaord to be glued.
for this operation, I now use Titebond III instead of the Original Titebond because it gives mote setting up time to cure.

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[*] posted on 6-9-2011 at 09:57 AM
almost there


4 ouds are need only the pegbox and bridges to be mounted. A work to be done sometimes next week.
oud number 5 , the (wenge) will be finished later.



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[*] posted on 6-9-2011 at 10:37 AM


Quote: Originally posted by sabbassi  
Preparing the ebony fingerbaord to be glued.
for this operation, I now use Titebond III instead of the Original Titebond because it gives mote setting up time to cure.


Brilliant work!!!!!!!!!! :bounce:

Why not use hide glue, or even titebond liquid hide glue for the fingerboards? What will you do if you need to remove it? Of course titebond also will release with heat, but it is much more difficult to melt off than hide glue.

Beautiful ouds... VERY VERY INSPIRING! THANKS!




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[*] posted on 6-9-2011 at 10:40 AM


Quote: Originally posted by sabbassi  
4 ouds are need only the pegbox and bridges to be mounted. A work to be done sometimes next week.
oud number 5 , the (wenge) will be finished later.



You are really a master already! ...and working so fast also.
Do you have any fotos of the soundboard bracing??




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[*] posted on 6-9-2011 at 07:17 PM


It is splended:)
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[*] posted on 6-9-2011 at 11:37 PM


Hi Edward, Thank you

It is like guitar making, most guitar maker don't use hide glue. it is more for Violin I presume. Also, I'm sure they didn't have Titebond back in the middle ages :).
There no need to remove the fingerboard, everything is checked many times before glueing . neck and body are water flat.
And as you said, with some heat even titebond can be removed in case there is an issue.
I have posted many artciles before with sound boards and bracing details in this forum. sorry didn't make them this time

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[*] posted on 6-9-2011 at 11:58 PM


Hi Samir :wavey:

as i watched all the vids of your ouds I must say I`m impressed how fast you become a "master luthier", like Edward said.:bowdown::bowdown:

dkhoury35 asked allready if you plan, or if it is possible for you, to install a pickup/preamp-system in your ouds. Is it?
Another question,what about building a 7-course fixed bridge?
I`d love to own one, specially one that is made by you and availiable in Holland.

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[*] posted on 6-10-2011 at 12:12 AM


Hi Marcus

Thank you for you compliments. There are many Pickup / pream-system. but that is no issue. Some of them are installed under the fixed bridge and need to be fixed before the bridge is glued. other are just glued on the top of the soundboard. I can do that no problem.

I can sure build of 7 course for you, the ouds I'm making now are standard, the join on the neck is exactly 5.8mm and on the nut 3.8. will fit only 6 courses.

you need to tell me what wood preferences and I can start with it. and offcourse do you want it more bass(y) or more treble, etc...
but we can do it by mail.

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[*] posted on 6-10-2011 at 04:25 AM


Hi Samir,

I am a bit quiet these days but I just wanted to give you my regards and encouragement. You are making some very nice instruments :)

Are you still using a table saw to cut all your wood? I am thinking of getting one this summer but I wonder what amount of HP is suitable for exotic woods such as ebony and also what kind of blade are you using in it?

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[*] posted on 6-10-2011 at 06:54 AM


Great Work Sabbassi! and thanks for shearing



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[*] posted on 6-10-2011 at 01:29 PM


Yaron, Thank you my friend I love your work too, Just foget smtimes to repost :) forgive me.

SamirCanada. Thank you samir, I have noticed you abscence this days, must be busy :)

I use for most of heavy work the new purchased BOSCH PtS10 table saw. I use carbide saws, 1.7 mm kirf thikness , they cut less in expensive woods like ebony and you can save some money with it. I also use it to cut the fingerboard, ribs etc. dangerous but very nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAQ-w_gdRNw


I have also a smal tabel saw from Proxxon. this one is a wonder. so quite yet powerfull. Proxxon FET.

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[*] posted on 6-11-2011 at 01:38 AM


Hi there

'dangerous but very nice' just watch your fingers - seriously I've seen it happen ... maybe find another way if it feels edgy:)

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[*] posted on 6-11-2011 at 01:42 AM


ps ... that's a nice looking table saw though - I may need something similar for a project (not lutherie!!) I need to build this year.

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[*] posted on 6-12-2011 at 04:05 PM


sabbassi,

You always present fantastic design with a taste of wood selection... have you already sold them or got any left
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[*] posted on 6-13-2011 at 05:57 AM


Hi Alan,
Thank you, I have not sold anyone yet. If you are interested plese u2u me.
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[*] posted on 6-15-2011 at 05:59 PM


Sabbassi,

I did u2u you regarding another issue so please check it?

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[*] posted on 6-19-2011 at 09:30 AM
Almost there, pegs and strings


Hi Guys,

After a hard working weekend the bridge, nut and the pickguard are placed. the finger boards are flaterned and sanded.

I still need to shape the ebony pegs and place the strings.
th dark ouds are difficult to make pictures of. the Indian rosewood hs mother of pearl dot at the back. the three others are from ebony.

new: the bridge it not at 90 degree as usual, but 5 degree more to the back. the knot of the strings is about 2 mm, this way I want to keep the strings lenght net: 58,5cm exculding the knot.

the bridges are all from walnut, stained black


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[*] posted on 6-19-2011 at 09:32 AM


more pictures.
enjoy it

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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 12:16 AM


Really great work Samir :applause:

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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 05:16 AM
Indian Rosewood / aged spruce top


Thank you Dan

First oud is finished.

Strings ust mounted 3 hours ago. Labella strings (Do)

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[*] posted on 6-20-2011 at 06:40 AM


Great stuff - lovely oud

btw who is playing on this vid you also posted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BWCvsnGPaU&NR=1

it is really beautiful and very sweet sounding

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