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Brian Prunka
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https://www.flickr.com/gp/143610517@N03/u3712d
https://www.flickr.com/gp/143610517@N03/71jt4t
https://www.flickr.com/gp/143610517@N03/83k2t2
https://www.flickr.com/gp/143610517@N03/4mn8z7
https://www.flickr.com/gp/143610517@N03/mP8e45
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Brian Prunka
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Looks nice. Second link isn't working.
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Don Z
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https://www.flickr.com/gp/143610517@N03/8Cf4t3
https://www.flickr.com/gp/143610517@N03/2H990e
https://www.flickr.com/gp/143610517@N03/47RR54
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Jody Stecher
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The nut looks like it’s for 7 courses, both outer courses being single . 12 strings all together. the middle 5 courses seem to be cut as pairs.
The slot at the far right looks like it might be wide enough for a bass course such as the old way it was sometimes done in Turkey and also by Munir
Bashir etc.
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Don Z
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That single bridge saddle is situated beyond the normal bridge and seemingly off of the fingerboard.
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Jody Stecher
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Quote: Originally posted by Don Z  | | That single bridge saddle is situated beyond the normal bridge and seemingly off of the fingerboard. |
yes I know. That's what I was asking about a day or two ago.
for a "bam" bass string that was not fingered it would make maybe a little bit of sense. For a treble string I don't know.
I'm examining the evidence and trying to make sense of it. At first the nut looks like it has 12 notches spaced roughly evenly apart. but then a
closer look suggests that there are 5 inner courses intended to be pairs. And then there is a single course notch on either side. It could be the
result of several sequential setups for 5 or 6 courses and of course I don't know it it's the original nut.
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Don Z
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The bridge is drilled for 11 strings; 5 courses and a bass string.
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Don Z
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Since the main rosette is missing should I leave it as is, or have a new one made?
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journeyman
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The ebay add said it was made by Garabed der Bedrossian but I don't see his name on the label. Was it made by his father, Sumbat (Sempet)? Sempet ouds
had beautiful rosettes; Garabed's ouds generally did not. Regardless, an oud with no rosette just doesn't look right to me. Sempet's ouds are much
more highly regarded than Garabed's and this looks much more refined than any of the Garabed der Bedrossian ouds that I've seen. If it is one of
Garabed's, it must be a very early one; perhaps made under the tutelage of his father. I have an early one from the 1960's but it is not as nice as
this one.
The bridge extension for that upper string must surely be a modification. My opinion......have it restored to original; it might be a great oud.
roypatterson.com
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Don Z
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John Vergara has it and says it's Garabed. He is doing the restoration work. I too think a new rosette would complete it.
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Don Z
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I do think the smaller rosettes look more like Sempat as seen on this oud:
https://www.flickr.com/gp/143610517@N03/cxz8pV
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