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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 06:59 AM


Here are some, Samir. Very plain.



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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 07:00 AM


I know I have posted some of these before.



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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 07:01 AM


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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 07:02 AM


Pretty basic, but I like it, and it sounds very nice



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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 07:02 AM


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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 08:09 AM


Great Nahat Jonathan!
i don't think it's so simple as you say...i like it a lot...
Is the one you posted some time ago?there was also a sound file if i am not wrong....so the sound is really beautifull....
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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 08:20 AM


The sound is beautiful but, truthfully, I do not play it much at all.
I am still pretty new at all this and I really have a lot of problems with microtones. So, I am pretty much just sticking with my Turkish ouds, and hoping I can get it straight with those, before I start to tackle an Arabic oud.
I do love the fingerboard. A lot. It is just that I see some of these incredible, incredible Nahats and, relatively, this one is pretty basic. Doesn't bother me, though. For me, the tone is always the thing.
Thanks a lot.




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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 08:40 AM


you're right jonathan...there are a lot incredible Nahat out there....by the way your nahat is honestly a beautiful nahat...the fingerboard is beautifully decorated...i love it.
Do you feel som buzzing sound with all that decoration and with the age of the instrument?just curious...
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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 08:45 AM


No, I feel no buzzing at all.
This is the first oud that I have that has a really decorated fingerboard, and I was worried about that. But, I guess the hardness of the woods must be pretty similar, because they have worn equally.
I once had an old oud that had that tiled-edge purfling on the sides of the fingerboard, and it had worn at uneven rates, and it buzzed. So, I have really shied away from that.
But, here, the woods must both be so hard that this is not a problem.




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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 12:53 PM


verry nice I really like it Jonathan

On the topic of wearing the fingerboard. I was given a set of strings by my teacher that are nylonwound so there not nearly as abrasive as a silverwound string. Its worth it if your instrument has a delicate fingerboard. I dunno the name of the set. But I know he has some I'll ask him next time I see him.
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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 07:09 PM


I would appreciate it. do they sound good?



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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 07:40 PM


Jonathan
Check your e-mail. I sent you a sound sample. If you like them I can pick out a set for you next time I see him. I think there 20$-25$ canadian... so like 16$ or 18$ us
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[*] posted on 9-28-2005 at 08:59 PM


>by the way for me 13strings has been a final and happy >solution due to the always hard decision on what tipe of >tuning to use, 11 or 12strings?so it's all in one....
>Salamat

The high f string is also very common among Iraqi musicians and some of them including myself when playing on 7 course oud add a higher top string above the f and then
you have a very high tuning. To add supplementary bas strings to use as pedal/drone is not virtuosity.




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[*] posted on 9-29-2005 at 12:07 AM


Hello Ronny,
thank you for the info on iraqi oud!... i was already knowing about that...
You know also that High Fa is still common in the Middle East (Lebanon.Syria..)but i don't play iraqi tuning, i played since i begin with 11strings standard tuning and only few times changing to 12...so for me (as it could be for many others)switch to 13strings(not iraqi...) has been a very nice effect...
I agree That adding a pedal is not virtuosity, it's just feeling...i don't know about you but i cannot live without that warm bass string!!!...
...maybe it's due to my double bassist past...by the way i don't care about virtuosity...(and it's a very personal conception)i just play what i feel i and love to do it!
Best wishes also to you Ronny
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[*] posted on 9-29-2005 at 01:25 AM


Dear Ronny,
mmm...you gave me the inspiration to try this tuning...
could you tell me please the complete tuning of a 7course iraqi as you suggested?(the one with a string more after high fa):bounce:
salamat
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[*] posted on 9-29-2005 at 07:07 AM


Samir, the strings did have a beautiful sound--very sweet and, as you said, mellow. I appreciate the offer, but right now I just don't need any more strings. If you happen to recall the name of them, though, please let me know for my own future referance.
Thanks again.




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[*] posted on 10-28-2005 at 04:11 PM
Mar7btine ya sayed Elias


I just found this thread. Amazing sounds you play Elias. I was almost giving up on the oud, but you bring in a new inspiration. It is so refreshing to hear your energetic and dynamic playing style with such power and clarity. Thank you man.
(P.S. The Na7at sound is so rich and complex, fantastic)
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[*] posted on 10-29-2005 at 01:58 AM


Dear Elie,
Thanks so much for apreciating my playing!YEs, this nahat makes me very happy...i love its deep warm sound...but i play it only on special concerts or something important because i feel so dangerous to take it always with me around italy....
salamat
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[*] posted on 10-29-2005 at 03:00 AM


Very very nice playing Elias, it really encouraged me to keep studying oud with passion...I hope to know you soon.
regards, Giuseppe.
by the way, which tuning do you use on these two ouds?
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[*] posted on 10-29-2005 at 03:35 AM


thank you so much Giuseppe,
the tuning is standard DO FA LA RE sol do (fa)
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[*] posted on 12-27-2005 at 02:11 PM


Hello Elias. Could you please tell me what the diameters are for the large sound hole and the small sound holes on your Nahat which you posted the pictures of here? I greatly appreciate it if you could.

Thanks,
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[*] posted on 12-27-2005 at 02:15 PM


Hello Jonathan.

I would like to know what the diameters are for the large sound hole and the small sound holes on your Nahat which you posted the pictures of here? I greatly appreciate it if you could.

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[*] posted on 12-27-2005 at 03:48 PM


Hello Elie!,..the diamter of the sham is 11,5 and the small hole is 4,3 cm..hope it helps...
salamat
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[*] posted on 12-27-2005 at 05:26 PM


Thank you very much Elias. This will be of great help I am trying to verify some measurements and this will help a lot. Thanks again.

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[*] posted on 12-27-2005 at 06:27 PM


Elie--I won't have access to the oud again for a couple of months. But, I will post all of the measurements at that time.



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