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excentrik
Oud Junkie
Posts: 291
Registered: 5-19-2004
Location: Refugee Status...
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Mood: Now Here, Nowhere...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Oudoneit
| Quote: | Originally posted by jazzchiss
Hi, Rob.
You play very well the Spanish early music.
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I have only ever recorded one CD track with oud, and I played it fingerstyle in my own way, not traditional. You can hear it on my website here: http://www.rmguitar.info/mp3.htm
- scroll down to a track called 'Nine' - it is an accompaniment to a poem recited by its author - pretty heavy stuff about pro-democracy activists
being hanged in Nigeria. The oud part was completely improvised with only one run-through before hand. I'm really pleased with the performance, but it
will not please everyone...
Rob
PS I am happy that you like the early Spanish recordings!
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wow! Rob- what amazingly beautiful piece! in all my most sincere regard- the piece and the improvisation are truly masterpieces! SERIOUSLY!
tarik
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John Erlich
Oud Junkie
Posts: 1470
Registered: 8-26-2004
Location: California, USA
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Hi, my name is John. I am new to Musical Instruments Addiction Anonymous. I did not cause my addiction, buy I am responsible for my recovery. I am
currently in Step 1 - Admit You Have a Problem.
-5 ouds (Shahata, Eken, Najarian + two junky ones)
-4 guitars (Gibson ES-175; Gibson SG; Yamaha ascoustic; Crown Strat copy)
-3 darkukka (2 metal Egyptian; 1 clay)
-3 frame drums (2 Egyptian; 1 Moroccan)
-1 riqq (Egyptian metal - too heavy for anyone but Governor Shwarzenagger maybe)
-9 nays (8 Egyptian; 1 Palestinian)
-1 mijwiz (Palestinian--tourist grade)
-brass tray & large cooking oil can (for Yemeni music)
-1 small electronic keyboard
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Udi John
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jdowning
Oud Junkie
Posts: 3485
Registered: 8-2-2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Thought that I too would "join the instrument junkie club" having just carried out an inventory of all of the instruments stored in various rooms of
my residence and out buildings.
Stringed Instruments.
- 2,16th C lutes, Laux Mahler reconstruction and Hieber copy
- 3, concert guitars - one Torres copy
- early French 19th C guitar - Grobert copy
- French Baroque guitar - 5 course copy
- Renaissance guitar - 4 course, 16th C reconstruction
- small vihuela - 16th C reconstruction
- large vihuela - ditto
- Irish harp - 17th C reconstruction
- Liuto Attiorbato - Christofolo Choc copy (currently under construction)
- early 20th C banjo
- early 20th C Oud (currently under restoration)
Woodwind and Brass
- late 18th C boxwood and ivory clarinet
- job lot of 6 assorted piccolos - early 20th C
- trombone - modern.
- valved trumpet - early 20th C
- valved cornet - ditto
- Tuba - early 20th C
- Baroque trumpet (valveless) - 17th C 'replica' in tinplate
- 16th C sackbut (early trombone) - replica
- 16th C cornette - replica in cast resin
- treble recorder - plastic
- tin flute
- metal clarinet - early 20th C
- 3 tin horns
Free Reed Organs
- 2 piano accordions - 20th C
- 2 concertinas - 19th C
- 5 harmonicas - 20th C
- 6 reed organs - 19th C in various states of disrepair
.... and finally a recent bargain on sale that I could not resist - a full size (4 octave) electronic keyboard that rolls up and fits in a brief
case!
Is this an addiction or what?!!
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will_oud
Oud Maniac
Posts: 75
Registered: 6-4-2006
Location: San Antonio Texas USA
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I wouldn't call it an adiction, but an extreme overflow of love for the music. But then again, isn't music the perfect drug? One with plesent side
efects?
William F. Sparks
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Oudoneit
Oud Maniac
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Registered: 1-21-2007
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| Quote: | Originally posted by excentrik
wow! Rob- what amazingly beautiful piece! in all my most sincere regard- the piece and the improvisation are truly masterpieces! SERIOUSLY!
tarik |
I get a little embarassed when people say such things - but thank you anyway
The track divides people. Some love it, some hate it. Oh well...
Rob
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Oudoneit
Oud Maniac
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jdowning
- small vihuela - 16th C reconstruction
- large vihuela - ditto
- Irish harp - 17th C reconstruction
- Liuto Attiorbato - Christofolo Choc copy (currently under construction)
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Can you tell me who made your vihuelas and who is making your liuto attiorbato (always wanted one of them!)
Rob
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ALAMI
Oud Junkie
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Registered: 12-14-2006
Location: Beirut
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Guys it is hilarious, don't stop it !
A cyber group therapy for junkies, any shrink member on these pages ? Let's hope not.
Mr Google was speachless when I begged him to enlighten my ignorance about "azeri kshkarjeh", I was more lucky with "Liuto Attiorbato" wich returned
the vision of a gorgeous 14 course 2 head creature (or I was under instrumental LSD)
With 2 ouds (Matta and Bitar), 2 guitars (Ibanez and Tanglewood) one damaged bouzouk and a mini midi keyboard, I don't even qualify for light hashish.
But hanging out with guys like you I may be dragged into trying the hard stuff like Baalbaki Menjairah (kind of rababah that can stimulate the urge of
killing a musician) or Mejwez of Deir Al Ahmar (a mizmar capable of producing the sound of a thousand Mosquitos Choir)
SERIOUS: Rob this a great piece, I love it.
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jdowning
Oud Junkie
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Registered: 8-2-2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Rob - I made all of the stringed instruments that I have (except for two of the concert guitars) for my own use and research. The two vihuelas are
scaled down, less decorative, versions of the so called "Paris Vihuela", the only recognised surviving vihuela that I had reference to at the time
(1970's). I do not use them any more as I find it more practical to play the vihuela repertoire on lute rather than attempting to switch instruments
all of the time. The lute, of course, was used in Spain contemporary with the vihuela.
The liuto attiorbato is a copy - or rather based upon - a museum drawing of the original, as it will not be made from ivory or be as decorative as the
surviving original. The project has been sitting in my workshop awaiting completion for several years now as life and other work takes precedence.
Your research is correct ALAMI, the instrument is a double pegbox lute with extended bass strings and a total of 13 or 14 courses - intended for the
Italian solo lute repertoire of the early 17th C.
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jdowning
Oud Junkie
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Correction - I didn't make the banjo or oud. Apologies I am just losing count!
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Masel
Oud Junkie
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Registered: 6-18-2006
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Wow, some serious sickos here... Maybe I should of asked how many instruments do you play and HOW GOOD ARE YOU AT PLAYING THEM, what concerns me about
"spreading out" too much is sacrificing quality for quantity, but if you have enough time to practice it needn't be the case.
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Oudoneit
Oud Maniac
Posts: 65
Registered: 1-21-2007
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Well, for sure, Masel, I don't play all those instruments equally well - but who said I have to? What matters ultimately is whether or not you have
found your own voice. If you have, I believe you can find it in many instruments, and with only a few notes, maybe even just one.
Rob
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al-Halabi
Oud Junkie
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Registered: 6-8-2005
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Rob's last comment about finding your voice even in one single note reminded me of an old Turkish folktale about the medieval wit Nasrettin Hoca. He
was seen one day sitting in the marketplace playing the same note on his saz. A passerby asked him why he was playing the same note again and again,
and remarked that other musicians move up and down the neck playing a variety of notes. Nasrettin Hoca replied: "The other musicians are moving up and
down the neck because they are looking for the right note. I have found it."
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jdowning
Oud Junkie
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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In my haste, I overlooked a few more:
- recorder, Renaissance style - wooden, modern reproduction.
- 2 maracas, Mexican - modern (but colourful).
- mouth harp (with fitted felt lined case)
- 8 assorted brass instrument mouthpieces.
- a japanned tinplate fog horn, 19th C - copy
- a monochord - modern reproduction.
- a musical saw - slightly rusted, with infinitely variable pitch.
There may be others but enough is enough already.
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will_oud
Oud Maniac
Posts: 75
Registered: 6-4-2006
Location: San Antonio Texas USA
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The comment about the fact that with two ouds, bouzouk, and keyboard not qualifying for light hashish is not necessarily true. The oud, and
instruments relating to the oud, lute, mondol, and the likes of anything with double courses of nylon strings, can be enough of an equivalent to a
hash buzz. However, I relate the sounds of these instruments to that good feeling you get after that taste of a good cup of coffee, or a good shisha
smoke.
William F. Sparks
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Melbourne
Oud Junkie
Posts: 354
Registered: 10-9-2006
Location: Mlebourne, Australia
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Mood: راحة الأرواح
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Will-oud
Heard of the Greek Rebets from the 1930s?? Light hashish and bouozouki really can be associated with each other 
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Jason
Oud Junkie
Posts: 734
Registered: 9-17-2005
Location: Louisville, KY
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Mood: Loving my oud
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9 guitars
5 basses
3 ouds
I majored in music merchandising on the upright bass in college but I haven't bought one of those yet. I started playing guitar and bass 9 years
ago... about a year and a half on the oud.
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ALAMI
Oud Junkie
Posts: 645
Registered: 12-14-2006
Location: Beirut
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What about using hash oil as oud polish ?
or cedar resine as glue (or just as a coating inside) the oud will smell forever.
I have a cedar wood piece that still smell since I was a kid. The legend says that ancient phoenician sailors sailing back home used to smell cedars
before seeing the shore.
Wll, what is "the Greek Rebets from the 1930s??"
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Multi Kulti
Oud Junkie
Posts: 252
Registered: 1-27-2004
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to ALAMI : about Rebets read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebetiko
Im glad to see some Rebetiko lovers here !
by the way my stash is :
2 Turkish ouds (one custom by Faruk Türünz, one Sabri)
1 Greek Trichordo-Bouzouki (custom by Yannis Alexandris)
1 greek Tzoura (by Vagionas)
1 small baglama (custom by Rotskos)
Cümbüs,saz,etc
Nikos
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will_oud
Oud Maniac
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Registered: 6-4-2006
Location: San Antonio Texas USA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Melbourne
Will-oud
Heard of the Greek Rebets from the 1930s?? Light hashish and bouozouki really can be associated with each other |
Oh... yes! Good point!
William F. Sparks
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ALAMI
Oud Junkie
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Registered: 12-14-2006
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Thanks Nikos, it is funny I didn't know of this "tradition" of old drug-related songs in Greece.
In Lebanon there is a tradition of Arak (same as ouzo, Raki, pastis) related singing :"Zajal" it is an improvised duel between 2 or more singers they
drink arak and play a daff,
however I have a rare "Hash song" (early seventies) with just oud and percussions.
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jdowning
Oud Junkie
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Registered: 8-2-2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Now that booze has raised its ugly head and to take things a bit more off topic - can anyone tell me if the local beer in Cairo "Stella" is still
being made.
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ALAMI
Oud Junkie
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or we can call it a "Topic Modulation"
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jdowning
Oud Junkie
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Sounds good to me!!
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kkeys
Oud Addict
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Registered: 6-14-2006
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Usually, you're good at one instrument, and for the others.... well you do the job, .............Who needs a virtuoso on the other wiered
instrumet.
When I worked in soundtrack making, you usually need the sound of a less known instrument only to be present, and accurate, you really dont have to be
really good to do the job.
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Melbourne
Oud Junkie
Posts: 354
Registered: 10-9-2006
Location: Mlebourne, Australia
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Ha ha ..... rembetika and the drug tradition in the 30s Greece
There is this really old song, been re-recorded by many rembetika groups, but I refer to the original recording from the 30s. Its called "i Eleni
zondokhira".... Has anyone heard that particular recording??? I've always thought the singer was sooooo high! with his really laid back lyrics...
Maybe there's a link here, the dude must have rocked up to the recording studio completeley hashed out
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