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Danielo
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congratulations Robert !
It sounds very good already, it promises to mature in a fantastic oud..
Do Sebastian Stenzel plans to build others, or is it a 'one of a kind'?
Dan
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Aymara
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I bet several players wish he would.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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rojaros
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I think he will built more ouds according to incoming orders, but you would have to contact him personally. We're good friends, but I'm not in any way
afilliated economically with him.
If you wish to contact him, please look up his web site Sebastian Stenzel Guitars.
Anyway, I'll keep you posted about the future development and experiences with this oud.
best wishes to everybody
Robert
See also
New Improvisation Nr. I
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Kelly
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Hi Robert
Re Keurschner strings- yes his new sets are pvf trebles in medium. I thinks they are ok up to C'. I think getting hi f' with nylons can be a bit hit
and miss even with Maris. I comparison to his nylon rectified they are jst a bit brighter to my ears.
The change to 7 course takes a bit of getting used to but well worth the extra range if your left hand can adjust.
The oud sounds great already- It will just get better with every string change!.
Kelly
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Aymara
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That's why I thought Kürschner strings are the best choice, because he will design a string set especially for this oud, if Robert tells him the
exact dimensions ... string length from bridge to nut and from nut to peg ... and tells him the desired tuning and tension. I remember times, where
this service didn't cost more as his standard set ... maybe this hasn't changed?
Why not just phone him and ask? Robert is located in Germany 
Fact is, you still can get custom string sets, if you ask for and Kürschner strings have a good reputation.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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rojaros
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Thanks, I'll certainly do that at a certain point, when I have checked out the standard sets I still do have.
best wishes
Robert
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rojaros
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Hello, here is another improvisation on the new Sebastian Stenzel 7 course oud, in a different tuning and mood.
best wishes
Robert
New Oud Improvisation #02
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Aymara
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Hi Robert!
Which one? Nice playing, btw.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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charlie oud
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Fine project, fine oud, fine recording. a delight, thank you Rojaros for sharing this lovely journey.
Best Wishes, Charlie
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rojaros
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Hi Chris, this is standard arab tuning CFADgc + f'
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Robert
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rojaros
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Hello,
I just met Sebastian Stenzel today (he visits me from time to time to see how the new oud develops -this is an invaluable experience to see this
instrument growing) and he has kindly informed me that he has already started to work on his next oud, despite of many guitars that are also awaiting
their turn.
Usually his waiting list for a guitar is nowadays around 18 months to two years from the moment of ordering (this is maybe not as bad as those few
guitar makers with a closed waiting list or an unrealistically long waiting list, but it shows a great interest in his instruments) ; so actually I
got my oud extra fast, if I think about it.
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Robert
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Aymara
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Quote: Originally posted by rojaros  | | ... he has already started to work on his next oud, despite of many guitars that are also awaiting their turn. |
I think the oud is a new motivating challange for him and as such also relief and fun.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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rojaros
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This is surely true as well, but he is really into it in a very serious way, not just looking for diversion -this is how I perceive his way of
working: 100% with it ...
And, to avoid misunderstandings: he IS bulding the guitars as well, and they are getting better and better; I have had the honour of testing the last
8 guitars he has built, and with each new one something incredible happens. I don't know when he finds the time for still doing a lot of research and
developemental work. I really admire his work - a rare master.
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Aymara
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Yes, I thought so.
I saw one of your guitar videos ... impressive.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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rojaros
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Hello, there is a second oud improvisation on the Sebastian Stenzel 7 course oud I presented here. I'm not a great player, but you'll get the idea of
the sound...
Here is the link:New Oud Improvisation 2
Please enjoy
best wishes
Robert
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francis
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Hello Robert,
Nice improvisation. Your new oud sounds great, sure the sound will grow better and better with time. Sebastien Stenzel challenge is a total succes!
Does he makes the second one like the first one?
You must be happy to get such an oud, and really satisfy after you see it all along the making!
Play it a lot!
Francis
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rojaros
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Hey Francis,
Sebastian already started a new one. He is totally satisfied with the construction; so the second one will be very similar to the first one.
Main differences: it's going to be a 6 course oud; and he said he is going to experiment with other woods for the bowl. The pear is very good, but
grenadil seems to be quite time consuming to work on, because it's such a hard and dense wood. Also high quality grenadile seems to be hard to obtain
and very expensive.
Other than that he will continue along the same construction principles; his intuition as to the bracing and top construction proved to be
surprisingly precise; he obtained the sound he envisioned when he set out to build the oud. The neck and peg box also work just fine.
From my side I have to play and play to reall make use of this great instrument. It's changing quickly; each time I play it's a bit more open.
best wishes
Robert
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fernandraynaud
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Hi, Robert, very fine ouds, and I like your syncretic playing, it's evident you are getting increasingly sucked into the Oud Way of Everything ;-)
On what basis is Sebastian choosing the bowl lumber?
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rojaros
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Hi Fernandraynaud,
If I remember right my talks with Sebastian, he explained he wanted to have a very dense wood that can be worked very thin; he said grenadile has this
high elasticity. Than he wanted something that is also good elastic wood but with a bit more damping, so he chose pear. He wanted not too many ribs.
It was difficult for him to find a good piece of grenadile that has been drying for decades and big enough to make these big wide ribs.
But really I'm not so sure if I get his reasons right; he has much experience with all sorts of woods, as he has been bulding instruments for more
than 20 years, guitars, lutes, zithers, and also restauration of precious old instruments (I've seen him working on a Hauser II guitar from the
fifties, if I remember right; a beautiful and v e r y expensive guitar).
He had also some communications with other experienced european lute builders.
As I wrote elsewhere, he has been creating this oud since almost twenty years in his mind, because he has such a strong connection to oud and oud
music, and by good auspicious connection we met and my interest in oud triggered the whole process. I have big trust in him, as I already have one
flamenco guitar built by him, and this is really a great instrument. I was last summer at GSI in LA and tried several very costly flamenco guitars and
I wouldnt exchange the one I have for any of them.
I also witnessed the production of at least ten new guitars, and the timber is always perfectly chosen; the construction is so, that the tonal quality
is extremely predictable - he just gets the sound he imagines.
best wishes
Robert
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Aymara
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Which advantage do lesser rips have?
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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rojaros
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More wood and less glue - so it's less stiff, accoustically, I guess
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The reason I ask is because I am amazed at the degree to which the bowl material controls the timbre. I have 2 walnut Sukars on hand, 600 mm scale,
which in design and soundboard, bracing, bridge and fingerboard are as close to identical as I can determine. The obvious variable is the type of
walnut used for the bowl and the neck (called "walnut of lions" vs "walnut"), and the fact that the Walnut one has more ribs than the other, with thin
decorative lines between ribs. You might think a walnut bowl is a walnut bowl! Yet these instruments sound quite different, with "personalities" in
accordance with what they are known for. The Walnut of Lions model 14 has the deepest, darkest tone, the "striped" model 212 is brighter, more
projecting. The Walnut of Lions oud does feel heavier.
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rojaros
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Maybe the number of ribs and glue joints has an influence too.
But it is possible that small invisible differences in the top strength, top material and bracing make the main point.
best wishes
Robert
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Marcus
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Hi Robert,
in your Oud-impro 2 you use something to protect your right arm.
3 questions: What is it, how to fix it on the oud, and where to get it?
Even if it is said many times before: It`s a wonderfull oud and very nice playing!!!
Congratiulations & regards,
Marcus
Playing the oud is like feeding my soul with peace
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rojaros
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Hi Marcus, it is a so called arm rest. It is growing in use among guitar players. it has the advantage that you dot damage the varnish with your arm
sweat and also the top isn't damped by the forearm. I don't want to miss it anymore and use it also with all my guitars.
This one is attached with 3 sucction cups, but how good it sticks depends very much on the quality of the varnish.
There also exist some that are hold in place by strong magnets, but the problem is that you'd have to remove the rosette (if you have one) to install
them. Maybe it's even worth while.
Google Kristopher Barnett (guitar maker). He makes really nice ones, customized to the exact form, and I use one of his make on one of my guitars. It
is excellent.
There are severals brands with sucction cups.
The one that is visible on youtube was given to me by Sebastian Stenzel, it doesnt seem to be a regular product on the market. Google guitar arm rest
for the different products.
Best wishes
Robert
PS And thanks for very kind comment on my playing - I'm still a beginner
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