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TruePharaoh21
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It's a pleasure to hear you all play. Each of you has such a distinct way of playing, and I appreciate each style.
bluesy, you bring a new flavor to the oud that I didn't think imaginable. I ask that you record as much as you can right now. I wouldn't
like for this style to disappear any time soon. Keep it with you, because it's yours.
Ronny, your ideas are simply wonderful. You do a great job holding one note and playing the other different ones.
Brian, your style is distinct as well. It has a flavor of the old and the new, and its an awesome blend. Farahfaza has always been a favored maqam of
mine for some time now, and you a great job with it.
I have two questions...
Ronny, is your oud electric? and...
Brian, is your oud a 7 course oud?
Again, I love hearing all of you. I look forward to hearing more, guys. Thanks for giving me these awesome clips.
TP21
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Brian Prunka
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Hi TruePharoah,
thanks for the compliments . . . I have a long way to go in my playing.
To answer your question, I have a regular 6-course oud with the CFADGC Arabic tuning.
Why do you ask?
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bluesyOud
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Tp21 ,I'll keep on studying and posting,
your nice words are very flattering!!!
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TruePharaoh21
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Brian, you seemed to me to be very comfortable with the higher notes, as though they were right there. I assumed that you had a 7 course oud in order
to reach the higher notes, but apparently, you're just talented!
TP21
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sydney
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You guys are simply amazing
I am not going to use names but I can say all of you guys are great in what you do on the oud. Amazing how the oud brings the creativity in us. I
thank God for the oud. I can not imagine the world without it.
God bless you all.. please keep on playing
Emad from sydney
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Ronny Andersson
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Tp, my oud is not electric. Listen to some early recordings with Bashir and you hear the similarity.
The Bashir oud by Fadel is very expressive when played with eagle quill and that you master a certain style and technique (my own off course). The
¨quasi polyphony¨ can be played in various ways.
I'm soon buying a classical oud and then I post something composed by Farid - a oud player who is completely different my own way to express, but
I can play his music.
Best wishes
Ronny
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TruePharaoh21
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Lee, I tried all the file extensions that I could think of, but nothing worked. I found it peculiar that when I downloaded it, it downloaded it in a
tenth of a second, and I'm on dial-up... nothing I download goes that fast. Perhaps the file itself has errored. What did you use to record
it?
TP21
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LeeVaris
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Music upload
Ok... I took the liberty of deleting my previous uploads because the files were corrupt somehow during the upload process - see the most recent post
for the file!
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TruePharaoh21
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Lee, I think it may have been a bit too large. It wasn't able to post. If you'd like, you can send it to me via e-mail at
truepharaoh21@yahoo.com and I will post it up for you. If not, then try downsizing it. I know it'll sacrifice some of the sound quality, but at
least we'll hear it.
TP21
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LeeVaris
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Mystery file
On my Mac the file is a 272 KB .mov – if I use iTunes to convert it to an mp3 it grows to 1.4 megs and its too large to post. I'm not sure what
to do next other than "stuff" it as maybe a "zip" archive. I don't have a lot of audio applications.
Maybe someone can recommend some freeware/shareware apps for this sort of thing?
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john (beloved) habib
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Another Mourice Shehata Oud sample
It's my Ney and my new Mourice Shehata Oud.
Dayman Ma'ak - with my Mourice Shehata Oud and my Ney
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LeeVaris
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Another attempt
For some reason I'm having a lot of trouble getting my "Quicktime files through the server upload. I don't have the same problem with
my server so I've posted the file on my site - you should be able to access it here:
http://www.varis.com/Oud/Nahawand-040320.mov
This is a 650 KB Quicktime .mov file that is audio only - it downloads and plays in Safari and Internet Explorer on the Mac – I imagine that if you
have the appropriate Windows plug-in installed it should play fine on Windows systems.
Anyway... all this trouble for a pretty poor example of beginning oud playing! Don't laugh too loud... I might hear you over the internet.
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TruePharaoh21
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John, I love the sound of your new oud. Mabrouk! I'd love to hear you play some taqsim as well. I love the song though. This one as well as the
one on the other post. Great, man!
Lee, you finally got it up! Who made your oud, buddy? You play it very well. You've adapted to the arabic sound nicely for the Nahawand maqam.
Keep it up!
TP21
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Zulkarnain
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I cant hear anything..can anyone help?
Thanks
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bluesyOud
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lee ,very melodic sound man!!!!!!
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LeeVaris
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Mp3 version posted
As an experiment I'm posting an mp3 version - this is about 1.5 megs, quite a bit larger, so... longer download!
http://www.varis.com/Oud/Nahawand-040320.mp3
Hopefully everyone can play this one - let me know! I'm still trying to figure out all the ins and outs of these audio file formats.
Thanks for your patience - TP21 & Bluesy, thanks for your encouragement, I know I've got a long way to go yet.
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john (beloved) habib
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thanks for the compliments. i've never done a taksim. but, . . . i'll learn and maybe post one this summer.
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bluesyOud
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| Quote: | Originally posted by john (beloved) habib
thanks for the compliments. i've never done a taksim. but, . . . i'll learn and maybe post one this summer. |
We should all post our taqsims friend!!!some are profesional,some beginers,some
in the middle.We should help eachother
progress,and critisism(followed by good
will )is a great help.Don't be afraid to post
something friend I'm sure every body would like to hear it.After all the purpose
is less important than the journey!!!!
I'm looking forward to listen your
taqsim!!!regards!!!
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john (beloved) habib
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thanks for your thoughtful and wise words.
I guess I'll post one sooner than later...
but I seriously have little knowledge where to begin. I never thought I'd ever play taksim because frankly it didn't matter much to me . .
. then I heard all the wonderful taksims on this forum and from a bunch of classical musicians . . . and I realized taksims are pretty neat.
I need to figure out what taksim is more... is it just making up stuff, utilizing basic techniques from master oudists (like Farid, ....etc)?
I think that's the place to start... i guess.
anyways... thanks for the encouragement.
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TruePharaoh21
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I'm not sure if the masters had so-called "basic techniques," but yes, they had their own techniques. I'm not an authoritative
figure on taqsim. In fact, I'm far from knowing what I'm doing at all when I'm with the oud, but from what I've heard from those
who have been trained longer on the oud, you should listen a lot to the masters and try to imitate them. I also think that you should form your own
technique along the way. With a great sounding oud like the one you have, things will come faster than you think (after all, it is a Ferrari like you
said, right?)
TP21
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john (beloved) habib
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haha .. ya . . . ferrari . . . ) thx for the advice
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john (beloved) habib
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My first taksim on my new Mourice Shehata Oud
This taksim is a mix of different things that might sound familiar . . . a taksim I heard, some wannabe Farid, a coptic hymn, and then my own stuff
mixed in in the latter portion of the click.
It's pretty bare . . . anyways . . . it's my first try so I hope you guys like it ...
My First Taksim
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TruePharaoh21
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I like the flow, man. And the sound of the oud is pretty kickin. I was just thinking today how this thread has started to take a backseat lately, but
I think your playing may get some people inspired.
I remember my first taqsim, and it didn't sound anywhere near as good as that. You got my vote, buddy.
I think you have a great ear for even figuring out that much of Farido's taqsim. Hats off to you, pal.
TP21
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john (beloved) habib
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thanks a lot man. I appreciate it.
one thing . . .I'm having trouble with is making the placement of my right arm, (upper arm, elbow, forearm, wrist, and pick grasp) comfortable.
I don't know how high to put my upper arm on the Oud, or how low . . . . how far to put my hand infront of the bridge (how far in front of the
bridge I should pluck so I don't put too much strain on the strings and at the same time acheive a desirable sound) . . .
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TruePharaoh21
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John, I think it just comes with time. Your right hand will start to naturally go to where it's most comfortable, but make sure that it's
still a decent distance from the bridge so that it doesn't sound like you're slapping the strings (you haven't done this, I'm just
forewarning you).
Keep them coming, man!
TP21
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