Sazi
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Finally :)
Wow! If the oud sounds that good on a crappy phone I can see/hear why you love it so much!
Nice impro by the way, there's a few good ideas for a tune or two in there.
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Reda Aouad
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I second that !
Very very well played I am really impressed. What were you waiting for to
post recordings?
You play with ease, simple but rich tunes. It seems you are very sensitive.
Please don't care about the video quality. The sound quality is very good and should be enough.
You are one more person I will be waiting to listen to his recordings on this forum 
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fadel
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ا hi
nice playing and good sound oud
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Luttgutt
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Thanks a lot guys!!
I appreciate the remarks
Sazi, I am already working on a melodi, for my Tiar trio, out of this impro : )
Reda, I was not "waiting" man... I just did not have the chance before
p.s. I'll put "saalouni al nas" soon I hope.
The wood might be dead, but the oud is alive.
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fernandraynaud
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"Monster" was a compliment. In California we say a very good musician is "a monster".
As to how Sukar your Sukars sound, I tried to record under similar conditions so you can hear, i.e. on a mobile phone, the video and the sound are
pretty dismal though. The original audio level was so low I had to normalize it and stick it back into the video file!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5yFsU-xylc
Both these Sukars sound different from mine. Mine seems to have a bigger bass and of course it's not tuned up to ff. My nylon trebles are below 3 Kg
tension, yours sound closer to 4 kg. And then you have the floating bridge (I think on this one), it's a very Iraqi sound, whereas mine sounds
(relatively) more Egyptian.
The interesting thing is that the Sukar design can be tailored in so many directions. And if I put rosin on the risha I could make mine sound a bit
more like yours.
As you can hear, the sustain (and portamento) on the Tung-coated neck is pretty strong, I'd love to hear how your Danish neck worked out.
Until we standardize microphones and some of the other variables to make a "standard timbre recording", it's very difficult to compare instrument
tones at all; well, at least we can hear some of the "qualities" we talk about.
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Luttgutt
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Hey! Nice done
Tony, I don't understand what you write here. Too technical for me 
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the video and the sound are pretty dismal though. The original audio level was so low I had to normalize it and stick it back into the video file!
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On my phone the sound was high to the distortion level, so I had to stay AWAY from it!
Well, I am NOT deneying that there is a Sukar "soul" in my ouds (that is why I use Sukar ), but they are very differant at the sae time. None of my 6 sukar that I have now with me sound similar...
About the base, don't forget that my ouds are 58,5!
But I am not so sure that yours is more bassy then my 7course! It has also to do with the way we played.
I'll post a new one accentuating the base...
Thanks for the responce
The wood might be dead, but the oud is alive.
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fernandraynaud
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One of the variables that affects perception is loudness. You can subtly manipulate which instrument listeners will react better to by applying
filters and volume compression., and So it is important when comparing music and timbre to normalize the level the same. My phone
recorded at so low a level I had to use Digital Audio Workstation software to extract the audio from the video clip, run a normalizing process on it,
merge the sound with the video again, and save the new video clip with the new soundtrack. Even normalizing can vary, some album mastering programs
adjust all peaks to touch the zero db line, others adjust the average level to sit around e.g. -3 dB and flatten extreme variations. Pop music is
normalized so that every frequency range is maxed out all the time. Classical and jazz are not. So it's not even clear which way to normalize, and yet
a standard is needed if we are to be able to compare instruments from a sound file. The sound files we put up here are almost completely useless if
they are intended to represent the instrument. Without a standard defining the microphone, distance, environment (room, distance from walls, etc),
normalizing, compression, reverb, etc etc, I don't think you can tell very much.
Yes, yours sounds atypical, since "normal" Sukars seem rather consistent. I don't know if your bass is lesser because of the shorter length, or not.
The custom shorter length modifies all his expected measurements and templates, and It seems logical that these ouds would be less predictable.
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