Elie Riachi
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Anyone know this maker?
Hello,
I found this oud http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=623&... on ebay. Any advice?
The seller seems to have ouds from different countries. The shipping is $39 even though it says the location is Jerusalem, Israel.
Anyone know about the vendor and the ouds being auctioned?
Thanks,
Elie
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spyrosc
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The oud is crap
Spyros C.
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Ronny Andersson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by spyrosc
The oud is crap
Spyros C. |
I don't think that this oud sounds better than my own from 1889 )
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Chris_Khouri
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Man this is one ugly oud. Why are good ouds so expensive.
Hilal
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chuckerbutty
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Yes, it's a bit of a howler. The amoeba shaped pickguard and soundhole are particularly repulsive.
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Jameel
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Chris_Khouri
Man this is one ugly oud. Why are good ouds so expensive.
Hilal |
On the contrary, Hilal. I find that ouds are extremely inexpensive for the time invloved in making them. Given that you could buy a nice oud for
around $1000 (e.g.: Shehata, Ghadban, Sukar), that assumes if it takes the luthier 1 week (that's fast) to make a simple oud, he is only making
$25/hour gross. Take out operating expenses, insurance, materials, taxes, and your left with basically a little over minimum wage. Check out this article about Peter Kyvelos, one of the top luthiers in the country. We should be glad we can get ouds for a good price. If you had to buy a
decent oud from an American luthier, it would cots much more. I know that if I was making ouds professionally (I'm already a pro furniture
maker), I would have to charge several thousand in order to make anything, and that doesn't take into acount demand, which is pretty low.
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Elie Riachi
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Jameel,
Very nice and kind of sad article. I enjoyed reading it.
Somehow I wouldn't have thought that fiberglass backs would sound good for an oud or a guitar. Not a fan of the ovations with the plastic back,
I personaly think a lot of the sound is lost there, but they are expensive and people buy them.
Thank God he didn't make many more of these fiberglass back ouds.
Take care,
Elie
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excentrik
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ya, its a mistake
I think what he is saying is muaffak khalifa
keep in mind it is in israel, the pronounce arabic names very differently than arabs-
maybe Im wrong, i dont know...
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Chris_Khouri
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Thanks Jameel for ur reply. After taking what you mentioned itno account, I think the price of 3oods isn't that expensive. As you said, imagine
making 3oods in the US with American machinery and Labor, that retail price would be very high.
Hilal
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chuckerbutty
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The dreaded name of Mouaffaq Khalifeh explains a lot about this oud!
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