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farukturunz
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First Egypt International Oud Forum
The First International Egyptian Arab Oud Forum will be held on September 16th till the 19th, sponsored by The Egyptian Culture Ministry
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farukturunz
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Attachment: Forum Progrom.pdf (492kB)
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fadel
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hi
thank usta Faruk
Eid mubarek
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Marcus
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Dear Mr. Turunz,
I really would love to be there!!!
Unfortunately its only a few days till it starts.
Much to less time to convince my boss (and my wife ) that I really need
holidays, book a flight,collect or keep the money it cost....etc.
Please post those tips as soon as possible.
All the best,
Marcus
Playing the oud is like feeding my soul with peace
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ibn sina
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Dear Faruk Turunz,
In the future can we have a a heads-up in advance? Say, 2-3 months? I can't just drop everything in NYC and come, but I sure would like to.
Eid mubarak,
Kiki
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Matthias
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Quote: Originally posted by ibn sina  | Dear Faruk Turunz,
In the future can we have a a heads-up in advance? Say, 2-3 months? I can't just drop everything in NYC and come, but I sure would like to.
Eid mubarak,
Kiki |
Hello Kiki,
it's not by Farouk who posted this information too late. I suppose it was totally planned shortly. I Got an invitation last sunday, on facebook it
appeared on tuesday, yesterday I ( an Farouk too ) received the program by the organisation and finally after that the informations went around in
facebook.
I will be there.
Regards
Matthias
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farukturunz
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Hello to all and Eid ul-Fitr mubarak!
I had just wanted to notify the members of the Forums about a very important international Oud related event notwithstanding my role in that. I am
only an invited guest, not someone intervener in the organization.
Thank you Matthias for the explication. See you there...
Regards
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Matthias
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No offence Faruk. Fine to meet you there.
HAve a good trip to Cairo
Matthias
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charlie oud
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WOW!!! What a gig!!!  
Best Wishes, Charlie
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farukturunz
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Of course Matthias...You too have a safe and good trip to Cairo.
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ibn sina
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Have a good time in Cairo! I wish I could be there!
best,
Kiki
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farid
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I thought it would be very kind if someone make some videos to post them at mike's forum.
For all of us which can't go to Cairo...
What do you think about that?
regards
Farid
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ibn sina
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Ok, It's over now. How was the oud festival in Cairo? Details please!! For those of us who couldn't make it. I'm sure it was great.
Can you tell us?
Thanks,
Kiki
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hama
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here are some links from facebook
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/photo.php?pid=114405&fbid=1...
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/video/video.php?v=1441681921904...
from nasser shamma and Ramzi Toumia pages
hope u will be able to access them
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hama
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from youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Lhxt7KzI8
http://www.dp-news.com/pages/detail.aspx?l=2&articleId=54907
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Alfaraby
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I'm really sorry , but if this is oud, so I'll have to admit I don't know anything about oud or what oud is .
I may write longer post about this instrument, but I'll have to stop here, before a contract is being published on my head !
Excuse me !
Yours indeed
Alfaraby
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Sazi
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Thanks for the links Hama, would have loved to have been there.
Alfaraby, I know everyone has their preferred styles and is entitled to their own opinions, and it doesn't really matter what others may think, but
now I'm curious about what you mean...
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DaveH
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And they said we'd never clone humans!
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Matthias
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Dear all,
now being back from Cairo now and after sorting my desk I can give you a first short report about this firt Forum in Cairo.
It was a wonderful and well organized festival there in the new opera. four days with 7 concerts, with not only 1 musicion or group. Mostly 1 concert
had 3 or 4 separate artists, with mostly solo recitals. besides the musicions from Egypt we could listen to musicions from Turkey ( Mehmet Bitmez )
Libanon ( Charbel Rouhana ), Iraq ( Sami Nassim ) Palestine ( Issa Mourad ), Syria ( Housein Sabsaby and Bashar El Hassan ), Tunisia ( Bassem Al
Yousifi ), Greece ( Perkilis Tsoukalas ) and some musicions from the UAE and Jemen. So we all had the big opportunity to listen to music with
absolutely different styles.
That was absolutely amazing and for me it was very intersting to see and hear the different type of instruments.
Besides the concerts there were some workshops for playing and two seminars about the different styles of oud playing and the sizes of the oud. The
second seminar can bee seen as a starting point in discussion about this idea and topic.
As there is only one one video in youtube, I can recommend to use your facebook account, where you can then find more videos of the opening concert.
I'm shure more will follow there. By reasons I cannot put my private videos there. Therefore I will add here now some pictures for the first. I'm
planning to add to my website a separate page about this Forum. I hope I have it ready next week.
So for now have a nice day and I'm shure Farouk will add also informations as we met there
Best regards
Matthias
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Faladel
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With regard to this congress I have much that to say, but, I am going to sum up
Naseer Shamma has a method of interpreting mechanic, of circus, has moved away from the enormous tradition of the oriental Damascene, Egyptian oud,
tunecino and Lebanese, alone it has centred on the mechanical thing, wants to turn the Oud into a guitar, his defeat between the lovers of the
traditional music is absolute, but it has followers, lovers of the rapid, mechanical thing and guitarristic.
The only ones laudistas in this one meeting Have been Husein Sabsabi and Hazem Shahin that preserve the authentic Arab school.
Big names have been missing like of Palestine: Simon Shahin, Ahmad El Khatib, Kamil Shajrawi, taiseer Elias, of Moroccan: said Sharibi and Khaled
Jdidi, of Syria:Nazeeh Abu Rish, Adnan Barakeh or isam Rafeh, of Iraq:Ali The Imam, Raed Khushaba, of egipto Dr. Mamdouh Jibali etc....
With regard to the Luthiers, since they have been missing many people that there have a vital importance Iraqis, Syrians, Libeneses, Plaestinos,
Moroccans, Egyptian, etc.
Some of them have presented only one Oud, or, only one sample, and others have presented commercials ouds that do not contribute anything,
The concerts, some are lamentable in the quality and in the quantity.
so many things can be said, but, at least I say few ones, the important thing is that these meetings have to continue and they have to be supported by
us but, they have to be very organized and thought-out well.
Please read here: http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/09/22/119970.html
Oud Player
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Matthias
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| Quote: Originally posted by Faladel |
The only ones laudistas in this one meeting Have been Husein Sabsabi and Hazem Shahin that preserve the authentic Arab school.
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Hello Faladel,
you've been there too?
Matthias
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ibn sina
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Thank you for all the information, Matthias. Hope there re a lot more oud festivals.
Kiki
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Matthias
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Hello kiki, yes I hope so too that there are more festivals. I enjoyed it very much in Cairo. I got a lot of contacts and all loved my instruments
very much. Naseer send a lot of his students to my stand to try my instruments.
By the way, it seems that we will have the workshop weekend here in Badenweiler again at the beginning of september next year, and it seems too, that
it will be much bigger next year. I hope that I can fix it within the next few weeks.
regards
Matthias
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bibo10
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i ve to agree with alfaraby, this music didnt move me. not an inch!
sooo sad that this is taking place in cairo
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Michael-GOD BLESS EGYPT
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fernandraynaud
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For what it's worth, I have never especially liked Naseer Shamma's guitaristic sound or emphasis on technique. Looking at the clips, I can guess what
he's driving at, I think.
In the context of teaching on a large scale, it makes sense that you cannot teach sensitivity, you are limited mostly to teaching technique. Good
players grow on their own anyway. So technique is perhaps a reasonable starting place. And listeners are easily bored, Farid put on a bit of a circus
act too. Nobody has ever seen a pyramid of oud players!
In the context of the big world in which we are all brothers, the oud deserves a big place, not just a regional one. This is probably what he is
thinking, that the oud will best propagate if it can cover many different styles and sounds. He has an apparent fondness for an "Andalusian" type
sound. Also, he is exploring harmony and counterpoint, which, as we can hear in some of the jam sessions, are not instinctive to Arabic players, but
are advantageous for ensemble playing, and will hopefully find their way into tomorrow's Sharqi music in a more sophisticated way than practiced now
in pop songs. So he's exploring, and I can't fault him for that.
That's my guess anyway. Those who favor approaches different from Mr Shamma's should attend and strongly promote their agenda, not turn their backs on
festivals of this sort. Hopefully there's room for many different visions.
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