David.B
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Do you know this rhythm?
I'm working on:
"Music From Lebanon And The Levant Of The Arab Renaissance_ The Legacy Of Miha'il Massaqa (1800-1888)" -> http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=7795#pid687...
Track 16 A-r-Rast
It's a simple 2/4 but I don't know the name.
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We usually call it wahda, but there is probably a more accurate name. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in.
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David.B
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I use to play wahda-kabir on my keyboard, it's 4/4 (or 8/4 in this case) with a single "Doum" on the first beat. I dug a little deeper and I would say
Malfuf!?
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Malfuf is more accurate.
Wahda is usually played slower with more filler beats in between the main beats. Usually 4/4.
Malfuf is usually played faster with fewer fillers, 2/4.
Both have similar main beats, but have totally different character and usage.
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David.B
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As always you're resourceful in the matter of rhythm, oudistcamp
Thanks rudeog, you did work my lazy brain to compare
Here it is the beginning of the track, a Bashraf on Wahda ... Just for the anecdote, the first sample is a model-melody for Rast (R) : R D S G N G S D
R S R
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Quote: Originally posted by oudistcamp | Malfuf is more accurate.
Wahda is usually played slower with more filler beats in between the main beats. Usually 4/4.
Malfuf is usually played faster with fewer fillers, 2/4.
Both have similar main beats, but have totally different character and usage. |
Excellent explanation.
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David.B
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Hi again,
I'm wondering about this one in 3/8: Samai Ta'er?
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What do R, D, S, G, and N stand for please? At first I thought R was Rast, D was Dugah, S was Segah. Then I got to G.
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Brian Prunka
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My guess is it's an Egypt-ized Jiharkah/Chargah.
Rast, Dugah, Sikah, Jiharkah, Nawa ?
Regarding the rhythm, I think "Sama'i Ta'er" is the name, or just "al-ta'er".
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Yes, you're right. It's too early in the morning for me to think straight. G as in "HiGaz". duh. silly me.
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David.B
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Thanks Brian for confirming my thoughts. Here it is what I use to name the notes: Rast, Dukah, Sikah, Gaharkah, Nawa, Husaini, Aug, Mahur, etc. ->
http://www.archive.org/stream/mlangesdeluniv06univuoft#page/34/mode...
I'm writing down the melodies, but I use these names instead of accidentals (# an b).
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David.B
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Oops, I made a mistake! It's still Malfuf:
Bayâtî 'l-Husaynî / Iqa' Malfuf
2/4 H n.'ag H N G l S N H N G S D :ll
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