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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 12:57 AM
Can someone with expirence please tell me their thoughts on this oud?


Can someone with expirence please tell me their thoughts on this oud: http://www.arabinstruments.com/112730/Professional-Egyptian-Oud-CAT...
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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 01:36 AM


As lute says a full size Oud may be too large for you... check out Saadetin Sandi on Ebay they have very fine Turkish sized Ouds with great playability and sound! I think they have them well within your budget at any time. I would suspect they are better quality than the Oud you have posted.

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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 02:07 AM


Thanks a lot for your professional advice, I am approx. 165cm in length and 55kg would this still be too big? because I prefer the deeper Arabic ouds such as Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese style.
Thanks heaps for the advice, is there any other suggestions in that field?
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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 02:22 AM


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ARABIC-STYLE-OUD-Saadettin-SANDI-Bahadir-SA...

Would this still be big? sorry to bother you I am new to this field
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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 03:58 AM


Perfect? http://www.arabinstruments.com/112730/Gawharet-El-Fan-Oud-1-1-1-1-1...
Though there is only one top string? how does this differ? is it quality/ babyish?
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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 04:10 AM


okay thanks again!
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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 04:33 AM


Thanks for the link! If you do come across something you think is suitable could you please just give me a nudge
I appreciate your help. Thank You.
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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 04:46 AM


Okay, you've been very helpful to me I really appreciate it!
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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 05:22 AM


15 years old and your height, I don't think there is any reason not to get a normal full-size oud. There are some ouds that are unusually large, which wouldn't be a great idea, but a normal Arabic oud should be fine. If you can find a Sukkar or other decent Syrian oud, these tend to be a bit smaller than the Egyptian ones.

Dr. Oud is selling a decent inexpensive oud on the forum:
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=14235

Here is a Sukar for a good price:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Syrian-Oud-Lute-Professional-made-By-Ibrahi...

Since Sukar's factory was destroyed in the war, I recommend you just buy this one. You are unlikely to see another one at this price any time in the foreseeable future.

It's $170 more than the one you listed, but a much better deal, and should you end up wanting to sell it you will get your money back.





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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 06:35 AM


You're right that arm length is more relevant than height, but in this case he's clearly big enough for a full-size Arabic oud.

Besides, in 6 months, he is likely to be a different height, with a different arm length. There are plenty of people his size that are playing normal ouds, I don't see any reason to restrict himself to short ouds, considering that it is difficult enough to find a decent normal-sized oud. In a way, you're right, but it is not a realistic or practical suggestion in my opinion.

Even if he had several thousand dollars to spend (which doesn't appear to be the case) and could commission an oud specific to his arm length, by the time it was built and shipped to him he most likely would have outgrown it.

Unless the OP is fairly certain that he has stopped growing, there's no reason to get a small oud at 15 years old. He's 5'5" . . . as long as he doesn't have disproportionately short arms and he doesn't get a particularly large oud, he'll be fine. The two ouds I posted are small enough. Farid wasn't very big and he played large ouds just fine.





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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 06:58 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Lute  

I think it is the length of the person's arms that really matter.


The length of the person's arms but also the volume of the belly ! :D
I'm not kidding.

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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 07:51 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Lute  
James when you need stings in the future, ask Brian Prunka. I recommend him.



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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 01:09 PM


The GeF ouds are OK student ouds... but I think they're a step down from Mr Sukar's work. Since I own two Sukar ouds, I'm a pretty big fan of thier sound... also, it was the first "real" ould I owned (I bought it here from SamirCanada) so take that for what it's worth... but that seems to be the best "low cost" option.

The Kalifa oud that Brian posted is also a good choice. Not sure if I'd buy one without playing it... but you can bet Richard has worked that one over and it has a really nice sound... so his would be the exception to the rule.

Otherwise it comes down to budget... for Under $1K, I would go with a Sukar oud or the Khalifa that's posted here... Once you break $1K, you get more options.... but unfortunately most low priced ouds are just trash... they look pretty and sound awful...

For strings, especially if you're in the US, there isn't any reason to look anywhere but with Brian... He ships really quickly and I've never had a problem with service or quality.




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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 09:11 PM


I don't think you need to worry too much about how big it is, as long as you play with the right posture and don't play lazy, you are going to grow right into your Oud.

Everyone is different, but personally, I'm not much larger now than I was when I was 15. When I was 15, I was playing a full sized electric guitar, and full sized trombone. Estimate that you will have this Oud for about two or three years before you grow out of it musically and physically, by then you will know what type is best for you.

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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 10:47 PM


I appreciate everyones help on the forum. It makes me feel so welcome! I am really interested in the 1990 khalifa, though its only has one top string??
Thanks to ALL!
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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 11:01 PM


From the pictures I saw and the youtube video Dr. Oud posted, this is an excellent value Oud. The one top string you mention, according to the pictures appears to be the low C string. This is standard, don't worry, an Oud from Dr. Oud aka Richard Hankey will have all the strings necessary. Here is the sound of the Oud on youtube, just be sure to find out how much the shipping will cost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fp7qBtBAK0





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[*] posted on 9-10-2013 at 11:06 PM


Thanks! I am no expert on this topic but as it quotes "a repaired broken neck". will this still last long as if It was new, do buy it? because it would be my first Oud and I really don't want it to be a disaster? it sounds great! but will it last long?
I trust that you will be honest in all your opinions thanks you!
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[*] posted on 9-11-2013 at 12:18 AM


by The way on this Sukkar Oud: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Syrian-Oud-Lute-Professional-made-By-Ibrahi... ....Is there marquetry to be put in the holes on the bowl, because those holes make it look plain?
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[*] posted on 9-11-2013 at 01:37 AM


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Syrian-Oud-Lute-12-Strings-w-Soft-case-Pick... Thoughts on this??
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[*] posted on 9-11-2013 at 01:41 AM


or this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Syrian-Oud-Lute-Oriental-Guitar-Floating-Br...
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[*] posted on 9-11-2013 at 01:42 AM


unfortunately my only option is online because there are no oud stores in my area in Sydney!
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[*] posted on 9-11-2013 at 01:47 AM


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ali-Khalifeh-Sons-Hand-Made-Syrian-Oud-Arab...
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[*] posted on 9-11-2013 at 02:05 AM


oh okay Thanks heaps! what would be my next alternative if Sukar is above budget ?
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[*] posted on 9-11-2013 at 02:25 AM


okay lastly My main aim is to play to old Arabic music, will the Sukar be a good suit for it?
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[*] posted on 9-11-2013 at 02:32 AM


okay thanks, so I should even stay away from the Egyptian Ouds on arabinstruments.com?
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