Edward Powell
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oud cutaway - (making an oud with a cutaway)
Hi Friends...
...does anyone have any tips on the best way to make an oud with a cutaway?
I found one site with an interesting cutaway - - -
http://www.claritanegra.com/workshop-projects-oud.htm
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spyblaster
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Burhan Cesni from Turkey makes some similar ouds. There are some other models by Fadi Matta(Lebanon), Kave Ghorbanzade and Arafati (Iran) which you
maybe interested in.
you can find Kave and Burhan on facebook.
The Oud is my life, n my life is the Oud
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Edward Powell
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thanks spy - - I really wonder how to make one of those twisted backs??
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Microber
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Saad Al Tayyar also make cutaway.
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=11928#pid81...
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spyblaster
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Yes Fadi's design is the most complicated model I've ever seen and probably a little tricky. other models shouldn't be a problem (for you of course,
not me  )
this is from Kave's facebook profile:
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spyblaster
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and this is how Fadi's design looks like from the back. do u really like to make such a thing?! 
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Edward Powell
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Thanks Micro!
...I think this simple (not exaggerated) design will solve my problem... thanks so much!
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Edward Powell
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The Fati design is really inspiring - I would not do it just like that but it is inspiring how it is possible to twist and alter the basic shape
somewhat. . . I wonder just how he does it?
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BaniYazid
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There was some pictures of the construction process in this post : http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=6543
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theodoropoulos
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i try to find the photos from the construction of this amazing Fadi Oud ,but i cannot...
Could you please help me see this construction???
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Alfaraby
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Quote: Originally posted by theodoropoulos  | i try to find the photos from the construction of this amazing Fadi Oud, but I cannot...
Could you please help me see this construction ??? |
As fascinated as I was then, I spared these photos in case ...
Yours indeed
Alfaraby
[file]29446[/file] [file]29448[/file] [file]29450[/file] [file]29452[/file] [file]29454[/file] [file]29456[/file]
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theodoropoulos
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Thank you so much!!
i appreciate your help!!
my real question was to see the construction process,and how the ribs where twisted! ...
thank you so much again!!
ps:what are those things at the back of the neck??i never understood this!
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Alfaraby
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Action adjusting mechanism.
Sorry, I didn't save all the photos of that thread.
Thank you
Yours indeed
Alfaraby
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ALAMI
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Although this oud was masterfully constructed by Fadi Matta, a difficult task that I believe very few luthiers would have achieved the way Fadi did,
the design was done by me. It was a process that took place right here on the forums with the help, encouragement, and great suggestions from many
members here specially my friend John Downing.
The oud was first a geometrical concept and I first "virtually" designed and constructed it using a 3D software. then I constructed the solid mold,
Fadi took it from there and made the real oud. It took him 2 months of work and chose to put the #1 on the label with our both names.
The ribs, before bending, were planar but not linear. their shape was calculated by a "UV unwrapping" 3D software. Fadi constructed the bowl very
slowly as the wood needs time to take the double axis bending.
Although the design itself is registered in my name, I really don't mind that someone can be inspired to take it further, add to it, make it better
instead of just copying it without an added creativity or added value.
The sound revealed to be very nice and clean and after 4 years of construction the oud showed a perfect structural integrity, no deformations, no
cracks, still as perfect as the first day.
here are some photos of the process:
[file]29460[/file] [file]29462[/file] [file]29458[/file] [file]29464[/file] [file]29466[/file]
[file]29468[/file]
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ALAMI
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Some others
[file]29470[/file]
[file]29472[/file] [file]29474[/file]
[file]29476[/file]
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theodoropoulos
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my friend i have no words to express HOW MUCH I LOVE this thing....
my big question is how did he twisted the ribs....
perhaps a photo of a rib ready to be glued would be a good idea!!
but anyway all those photos are very helpfull...
You Sir are a genius...
total repect and this is the most astonishing thing i have ever seen in my whole life...
any further photos would be helpfull to understand this ....
Greetings from Greece!!
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ALAMI
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Many thanks for your kind words, neighbor 
here are some new pics of bent ribs before gluing.
In fact each rib is different
[file]29484[/file]
[file]29486[/file]
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theodoropoulos
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wowwwww
i am impressed!!!
this thing is out of this earth!!
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Oud Freak
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I also watched him a little, building this beauty. No pictures can really show how the ribs were twisted. Amazingly impressive and perfectly
executed.
How he corrected the initial bowl and made it into a new special bowl, is also unbelievable!
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theodoropoulos
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ι am jealous!!!!lucky one Freak!
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Oud Freak
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| Quote: Originally posted by ALAMI | Although this oud was masterfully constructed by Fadi Matta, a difficult task that I believe very few luthiers would have achieved the way Fadi did,
the design was done by me. It was a process that took place right here on the forums with the help, encouragement, and great suggestions from many
members here specially my friend John Downing.
The oud was first a geometrical concept and I first "virtually" designed and constructed it using a 3D software. then I constructed the solid mold,
Fadi took it from there and made the real oud. It took him 2 months of work and chose to put the #1 on the label with our both names.
The ribs, before bending, were planar but not linear. their shape was calculated by a "UV unwrapping" 3D software. Fadi constructed the bowl very
slowly as the wood needs time to take the double axis bending.
Although the design itself is registered in my name, I really don't mind that someone can be inspired to take it further, add to it, make it better
instead of just copying it without an added creativity or added value.
The sound revealed to be very nice and clean and after 4 years of construction the oud showed a perfect structural integrity, no deformations, no
cracks, still as perfect as the first day.
here are some photos of the process:
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Hi Alami, hope you're doing great! Just a small suggestion, which is to add a pic of the bowl that Fadi Matta made after he adjusted the initial toast
rack you have made. I think that possibly the most delicate and difficult part for Fadi was to make the new bowl...
Cheers!
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