hartun
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oud in 1590
Hi everyone a friend of mine engaged in Near Eastern studies sent me this picture and wanted to determine what instrument this was, assuming that it
was an oud yet curious because it doesn't resemble the modern oud exactly and the picture is of a Mevlevi ceremony which he wasn't aware of ouds being
used in (in that period) http://www.themorgan.org/collections/works/islamic/manuscript.asp?page=55
so this IS an oud right? and did they just have different shaped pegboxes then? and any guesses as to whats going on with the multicolored face? would
it be better to describe this as a barbat? I said no because barbat and oud are basically the same, coming from a turkish/arabic source it would be
described as oud.
thanks
Harry
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Danielo
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Hi,
I think this is a Sehrud. Look here : http://www.turkishmusicportal.org/instrument.php?id=13&cat=1&am...
Dan
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reminore
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it does look like the shahrud, which was played in iranian court music...
its funny, wikipedia gives the etymology as shah-i-rud , the 'king of ouds'.
etymologically, the 'r' has no place if that is the original meaning...what a nice miniature!
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Jono Oud N.Z
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Hi.
I love this painting.
Awesome colours on the oud!
Personally I think this is a regular oud.
This is more like a shahrud type.
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danyel
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shehroud
This is hardly a shehroud, as this instrument is always described as having a lot of sympathetic strings (roud meaning 'string' in Farsi). It should
be an oud, but drawn at a time (and likely copied from older sources) when the illustrator was no longer familiar with the oud. Cf. delineations of
"lutes" in Western art during the 19th and early 20th c. CE. 'Idan (the correct plural of oud) were indeed falling out of use during the 16th c CE and
were certainly alien to Mevleviye music at that time. The same type of largish teardrop-shaped instrument is commonly depicted in Shahname
illustrations of the period, were the barbud is mentioned in the text. From Ibn Sina the word barbud has been used by Iranian authors especially in in
Farsi as a synonym of oud.
best regards
danyel
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danyel
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sheshtar
it could be a shesh tar (long a), a six string instrument apparently more common in Iran at this time than the oud.
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