johnmia
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Fathi Amin Oud Fake or Real?
Hey Guys,
So during my Cairo trip, a came across a Fathi Amin Oud for 5000 Pounds from a oud shop that seems to be pretty reputable and popular around the area.
The Sticker Inside seems extremely authentic as well. Of course, I am still a bit worried. It plays wonderful as well. I attached some pictures for
you guys to help me confirm its authenticity. Also, if someone else has a Fathi oud, would you mind posting a picture of the sticker inside?
Thank you!
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Almelaifi
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I'm not an expert, but the Oud looks like Fathi Amin's to me.
5000 pounds? This is not a bit expensive, this is too expensive.
But again I'm not an expert.
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Jody Stecher
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Quote: Originally posted by Almelaifi  | I'm not an expert, but the Oud looks like Fathi Amin's to me.
5000 pounds? This is not a bit expensive, this is too expensive.
But again I'm not an expert. |
5000 Egyptian pounds should be about $650 US dollars, no?
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Almelaifi
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Ohh sorry, I don't know why I thought that's British pound 
Thanks Jody..
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johnmia
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Thank you Guys Can anyone confirm 100%?
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Omar Al-Mufti
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Check the manufacturing date...Fathi Amin passed away in 2012.....the ouds made by his son Sayid after his dad are not really good.
Anyway....the ouds look original to me
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Something went wrong between Fathi & Sayyed somewhen in the last years of Fathi's life. The son wanted to move on to a bigger and more modern
neighbourhood, while the father stuck with his historical location in "Sooq El Hamam" near "Sayyeda Aisha" Square, one of old Cairo quarters. In order
to get their, you'd need a tour guide and literally pass in between old men playing cards, then continue walking quite a while. The workshop was
something like 6-8 sq. m. where not more than 2 people could stand. Sayyed thought it's about time to move on, so he left his old father back in his
cave and opened a new workshop and shop at Faissal st. Cairo using his father's reputation and big name. Soon afterwards, the two started to compete
and to tell everybody what they really thought about one another, in a very vulgar attitude.
On the other hand, Fathi hasn't put his hand to wood in his last 20 years. Mahmoud, his loyal apprentice actually built the ouds under the supervision
and know how of the late master, who spent most of his time outside his workshop.
Bottom line: this does not seem to be Fathi's oud. It's either Sayyed's or Mahmoud's.
Here's Sayyed's site:
http://fathy-ameen.com/index_en.html
BTW no original Fathi's is offered for hundreds. The wealthy players and collectors of the Gulf would have grabbed it long before his owner even
thought.
As to Fathi's ouds quality, I just heard about it, but never heard it or touched it for real.
Yours indeed
Alfaraby
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johnmia
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It has been confirmed by a few experts that are friends of mine that it is in fact a Fathi Oud. They were very impressed with the price I obtained it
at. It was an incredible find by a small store owner who was very close with Fathi.
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Alfaraby
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How great ! So why do you ask our help to confirm the authinticity of your treasure in the first place. However, we'd like to know who might those
"experts" be; so that we may count on their expertise in similar cases. But please pay attention to the following Wikipedia's suggestion before naming
the "few experts" (who must be at least more than two) :
"An expert is a person with extensive authoritative knowledge or ability based on research, experience, occupation or in a particular
area of study. He can be believed, by virtue of credential, training, education, profession, publication or experience, to have special knowledge of a
subject beyond that of the average person, sufficient that others may officially (and legally) rely upon the individal's opinion".
Yours indeed
Alfaraby
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Almelaifi
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| Quote: Originally posted by Alfaraby | Something went wrong between Fathi & Sayyed somewhen in the last years of Fathi's life. The son wanted to move on to a bigger and more modern
neighbourhood, while the father stuck with his historical location in "Sooq El Hamam" near "Sayyeda Aisha" Square, one of old Cairo quarters. In order
to get their, you'd need a tour guide and literally pass in between old men playing cards, then continue walking quite a while. The workshop was
something like 6-8 sq. m. where not more than 2 people could stand. Sayyed thought it's about time to move on, so he left his old father back in his
cave and opened a new workshop and shop at Faissal st. Cairo using his father's reputation and big name. Soon afterwards, the two started to compete
and to tell everybody what they really thought about one another, in a very vulgar attitude.
On the other hand, Fathi hasn't put his hand to wood in his last 20 years. Mahmoud, his loyal apprentice actually built the ouds under the supervision
and know how of the late master, who spent most of his time outside his workshop.
Bottom line: this does not seem to be Fathi's oud. It's either Sayyed's or Mahmoud's.
Here's Sayyed's site:
http://fathy-ameen.com/index_en.html
BTW no original Fathi's is offered for hundreds. The wealthy players and collectors of the Gulf would have grabbed it long before his owner even
thought.
As to Fathi's ouds quality, I just heard about it, but never heard it or touched it for real.
Yours indeed
Alfaraby
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I've heard of the story before, but you got me confused now because 2 years ago I was going to buy Fathi's Oud and it seemed like a lot of people, if
not all the people I talked to, refer to the design of the Oud posted by johnmia as Fathi's and not Sayyed's!!
From the link you posted, it seems like they have something in common, but again I'm not an expert..
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