mourad_X
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*** Darbuka-Machine***
ahlan ya asdiqa
i jsut want to introduce to you the unique drum machine
that ( i'm shure) you all have ben looking for it (a long time)
here it is
http://www.wizoo.com/
you just need a computer and a vst or au compatible host audio programm
(there are some for free) and some xtra money it costs about 300 USD
it rocks
regards mourad
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mourad_X
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some pictures
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mourad_X
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one more
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mourad_X
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....another...
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eliot
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The best thing - the Wizoo darbukka machine has a volume control!
-eliot, ruminating on the number of times he had to plug into a Marshall stack in order to compete with 7 wailing percussionists.
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Edu
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Tecladista
It is really amazing Best regards from Argentina
Visit http://www.al-kamar.com.ar
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Jonathan
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Edu. Have you bought the thing, or are you using the trial? I was just wondering who else has tried this, and if they have had any problems with it.
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Faladel
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Hi Edu :
Hola Amigo...Me ha gustado mucho vuestra historia y el grupo...Adelante
Saludos
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Greg
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I am trying the demo version and I am very impressed with it. The level of control is very impressive and the sounds are great. With judicious use of
the Timing, Variance, Swing and Complexity controls it is possible to get results that would be hard to tell from the real thing.
But the demo comes with ony two "styles," one in 4/4 and one in 9/8. I would need to know a lot more about the number and types of available styles
before I would commit to a US$299 purchase. There is very little information available on Wizoo's website. (added 21 March - actually there is a good
list of styles on their site, I just didn't see them before - donwloadable mp3's as well - I'm going to buy it.)
Mourad, you are right, I have been looking for a VST like this for a long time.
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Greg
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Sam Dib
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Hello everyone,
Can someone send me the demo or the download link by email, I can't seem to obtain it although I registered to get the demo on the web site two days
ago
Thank you very much
Sam
sambanout@hotmail.com
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Greg
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Update
In my earlier post on this subject I said: | Quote: |
But the demo comes with ony two "styles," one in 4/4 and one in 9/8. I would need to know a lot more about the number and types of available styles
before I would commit to a US$299 purchase. |
In spite of my reservations, I went ahead and purchased it and I am sorry I did. It is a remarkable piece of software engineering and the audio
quality is great, but the range and type of styles is very disappointing. Lots of fast, heavy 4/4 stuff that may be useful for a bellly dancer, but of
little use to a traditional musician. They do have a samai thaqil (listed under 4/4) but it is so heavy-handed it is unlikely that one could ever use
it as backing for a real samai. The same could be said of most of the other meagre number of non 4/4 offerings.
I think this software is a great idea, but in my view the makers need to add many more (sensitively executed) styles.
Regards,
Greg
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Jonathan
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Oh, man. I just ordered it a couple of days ago.
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Jonathan
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I haven't gotten mine yet, but if there are only a limited number of non 4/4 rhythms, I am guessing that I am going to feel the same way.
Does anybody have any suggestions for an easy-to-program rhythm that has some middle eastern sounds? I really would like to get a nice 9/8,
especially, but the problem with most drum machines is that they sound to western, and can be hard to program for the "non-standard" rhythms.
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Greg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jonathan
I haven't gotten mine yet, but if there are only a limited number of non 4/4 rhythms, I am guessing that I am going to feel the same way.
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Jonathan,
I hope you find it is suitable for your needs, but I have had more success playing to loops I have put together from bits and pieces of other people's
CDs. I use these only for practice and would never use them in public.
I had hoped Wizoo's Darbuka software would have overcome this problem for me, but I have found very few styles that I can actually use. The quality of
the individual instruments is very good, so I am going to try "sampling" them and building loops from that. The ideal would be to find a way to record
your own choice of percussionists and then use the software to control that. I will write to Wizoo to see if that is a possibility.
Regards,
Greg
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Jonathan
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Greg--that was a great idea. I had never made a loop of the rhythm track before, but I use the Amazing Slow Downer quite a bit, and make little loops
of the oud parts until they are burned in my brain. Last night, I made a cool 9/8 from a cd, and I am now on a drive to make as many really good
rhythm loops as I can. They sound great. I am going through all my music just searching for those nice areas where I can lift the material for a
loop. I am just using these for my own use, so it is not as if I am going to release them or anything.
I am wondering what program you are using. It looks like the amazing slow downer will only store 10 presets. No big deal, I guess, because I can
always just write down the relevent info. But, if there is another cheap and easy program out there, I would be interested.
Again, thanks.
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I use a program called ACID PRO
Its great for laying samples and loops and you can make that loop as long as you wish. Even the demo version is good.
Cheers
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Greg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jonathan
I am wondering what program you are using. ..... if there is another cheap and easy program out there, I would be interested. |
Jonathan,
I use Sony's Vegas Video. It is a relatively expensive video editing program originally developed by Sonic Foundry Inc.
Acid Pro was developed by the same people, has the same audio features and is less expensive.
No doubt, there wil be lots of programs suitable to do this job. I guess the most important feature is the ability to change tempo (speed) whilst
maintaining pitch and audio quality.
Best regards,
Greg
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SamirCanada
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Thats right Greg.
Or you could record your own percusions. If you know how to play the rhythm like you want it. 
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Greg
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If only 
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Jonathan
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Amazing Slow Downer really is incredibly easy to use, and does a good job. It is just that it does not store more that 10 presets. Still, I might
stick with it for a while.
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Greg
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The advantage of the other types of software is that you can start with a single bar, trim it accurately and then copy and paste it as many times as
you want to produce the percussion for a complete piece of music. Working in this way, you can include fills, time and tempo changes etc.
Regards,
Greg
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syrianoud
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It does a very good JOB indeed , The headquarters is in Germany , I called them a few times needed help , They oporate there business from a very nice
old (Castle looking)place out in the woods. That is where they (3) partners does all the work. They have LATIGO and other s. I just bought the Latigo
too. You can get the full verssion of DARBUKA at $189.00 same for Latigo. If you need info you can Email me and will tell you where. Thank you and
happy DARBUKA and LATIGO
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Jason
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I just got this program. I'm really enjoying learning the beats on my doumbek. I haven't practiced anything with the oud yet.
For reasons the others have stated I don't think this program was ever aimed as a practice tool for arabic musicians. I think it was designed for
electronic music and stuff, which would explain all the 4/4.
I wish you could change the tempo easier. I could do it in Cubase but it would be a bit of a hassle. Oh well, it's still fun to noodle around with.
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Benjamin
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Hi Mourad,
I downloaded the demo version but it doesn't work.. It looks (expletive deleted by moderator) complicated to register the demo, I
lost hours for nothing, so I cancelled..
So maybe you have a new link which should work better?
Benjamin
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stringmanca
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This is a pretty fun program:
http://henrykellner.com/PercussionStudio/
You can't save anything unless you pay the registration fee ($29 US), but you can download other instruments (darbukka, riqq, frame drum, etc.) and
get a whole percussion section going.
Watch out, though - I tried to open the documentation from the shortcut that came up and it wiped out my Firefox bookmarks! It works OK if you open
the documentation directly from the hard drive, though.
Nathan
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