saOudattempt
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Braces Placement in Relation to the Body
Hello,
I am a design student and by no means a luthier, but I am attempting to understand the process of constructing a Oud to potentially build one in the
future. By following Richard Hankey's book, along with referencing a physical oud, I am trying to construct a very accurate CAD in an attempt to learn
as much as possible and even building the CAD in a similar manner to how the real thing is built. I am currently constructing the braces and I am
quite confused on their alignment to the ribs along with how the face is supposed to fit on top later on in relation to the neck and neck block
(especially ribs 7 & 8)
Is the face simply laying on top of the ribs and parallel to the neck or not? Since the book mentions that "the braces in front of and behind the
bridges are shaped to raise the face and position the bridge in line with the fingerboard"
In simpler words, I am simply trying to understand how to align each brace properly. My current understanding is that all the braces besides 7 & 8
are aligned to the neck? However, this doesn't seem correct. I am also quite confused on what to do with braces 7 & 8.
Thank you so much! This is a great community.
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Brian Prunka
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Here are some pictures of an oud face with bracing:
https://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=13212
Here's a PDF of an article which you may find helpful:
https://pub.dega-akustik.de/DAGA_2018/data/articles/000581.pdf
Another picture:
https://www.ethnicmusical.com/oud/oud-instrument/attachment/oud-brac...
This thread may be useful to you:
https://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=6878
And this one:
https://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=11186
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Eric Stern Music
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Richard Hankey is a memebr of this forum and I bet you could ask him. His handle here is Dr. Oud, I believe.
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coolsciguy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hds9hEXaYSU
video is in Arabic but self explanatory to an extent.
-- Amir
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bulerias1981
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The problem with counting braces is some people start from the neck block, some from the tail block. Starting from where?
Also, I don't believe in the method of gluing braces to the bowl, in my opinion and experienced practitioners is to glue the braces to the soundboard,
trim the ends roughly the thickness of the ribs, and yes, the soundboard will sit on TOP of the ribs... which that area will later be routed out and
either receive binding or mosaics.
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coolsciguy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TBa--S5-Jc&list=PLL2dSTZrxYpnsd...
-- Amir
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