SamirCanada
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New way of stringing.
Hello people,
I came up with a new technique for stringing the oud and to leave the least amount of string material in the peg box that way the strings dont touch.
I was getting a lot of buz coming from the peg box where some strings were touching.
I start by tying a knot at the top of the string. Then I run it down through the hole in the peg that string goes in. The knot will stop the string
since it cant go through the peg hole. Then I run the string on its knotch in the nut all the way to the brige. I tie it to the brige in the hole it
goes in and I cut the excess string at the brige. And the result looks neat plus the strings dont slip around the peg because of the knot at the top
of the string cant enter the peg hole. And after it takes about 2 rotations of peg to get it tuned. You can still use whatever order of strings you
want in the peg box.
I want to ask the makers here if there's anything bad for the oud in doing that?
Thank you.
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Jonathan
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The only thing I will say is that I like having a lot of string around the peg because if a string develops a problem at one of the ends (getting
unwound, or weak), there is often enough stored away on the peg that I can salvage the string. It's not just cheapness (although that might be part
of it). If you change one string, it won't sound right if all the other strings are old, so often you end up changing the whole set because of
something minor. But, with that reserve wound around the peg, I have at times avoided this problem.
I am interested to see what others post on this.
I really love the design Dincer uses on his pegboxes--the holes are arranged in a straight line, rather than following the curve of the peg box, so
there is less contact between the different strings.
Seems incredibly logical. The type of thing where you wonder why people didn't come up with the idea sooner.
The other thing I wonder about is the seemingly illogical system we use of which strings go with which pegs. And, again, Dincer's approach seems more
logical to me. Here is a link to Lee Varis' post of his Dincer oud:
http://www.varis.com/Oud/DincerDalkilic/pages/08142005_Dincer-08.ht...
The strings remain more linear--less of an angle at the nut, which I would think would help with tuning. If your familiar with guitars, it reminds me
of what Fender does on their electrics.
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SamirCanada
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I do feel a bit of the same way for strings getting unwounded. But it seems to hapens mostly at the nut from what I have experienced and that's not
really fixable no mather what amount of string you have on the peg. Only I have noticed that the tuning holds up much more in that way. It would make
sence that if you have to play around with the pegs more often a bad quality string will become unwounded faster. Then again I think that if you have
bad luck and get a bad string on ur oud its going to come apart eitherway...
I think people came up with that idea of string the pegs in a odd fashion to counter the fact that the pegs do follow the curve. I have tried to
string my oud in the Dincer facion and it works great ecept that the strings were resting on pegs and it made tuning difficult. So I think that the
dincer way of stringing is perfect to use with his oud since it has that the pegs in that strait line.
Maybe he could tell us. 
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oudmaker
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You are rite Samir.
The locations of the pegholes are design to have a independet stringing regardless of stringing sequence. The holes look like they are on a straight
line in the picture but they are not.
Dincer
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billkilpatrick
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dear samir -
ingenious ...
i know that for the guitar, slipping out of tune is usually caused by excess string wound onto the spool before reaching proper tension. if the
string is brought closer to its intended tension at the outset and closed off by bending or twisting it with less excess, it's more likely to stay in
tune.
the only question i have concerns the size of knot on the metal wound courses - they must be enormous and difficult to make.
next time i string my oud i'll give it a try.
thanks - bill
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spyrosc
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Traditional vs New ways of stringing
There's no doubt that Dincer's way of stringing is neater and looks more practical. Nevertheless I have a question regarding the Physics of it. It
seems to me that now all the "thin" strings are on one side, and all the "thick" ones on the other.
Doesn't that cause long-term or short-term problems with the tension inbalance ?
Thanks
Spyros C.
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oudmaker
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Dear Spyrosc
Least tension on any string is at the most thicker string. Your assumption of thicker has more tension may not be correct. I think strings are
designed to certain tension and their thickness governs the pitch. Almost all stringed instruments fingered by left hand have their thinner strings on
the rigtht and thicker on the left. So I do not expect any noticeble difference of force at the pegbox may couse a distortion and also all the strings
are not pulling from the sides some of them are in the middle.
Regards
Dincer
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