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Maluf 18, al-Rizqi# Uaddaáuni
a friend of mine on the medieval lute list posted the following - can anyone help?:
"I was wondering if anyone of you know where I could
find music sheet or anthing about this song:
Tunisian song, Maluf 18, al-Rizqi
# Uaddaáuni - ¡Consoladme niñas al alba!
I heard it in this record by Música Antigua (Eduardo
Paniagua):
http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/pnu120.htm
I discovered what is Maluf (or malouf), but I can't
understand what "Maluf 18" stands for... is it
something like a mode? And I don't even know what is
"al-Rizqi"...
This song sounds very strange to me beause first it
seemed to me that it was written in the suznak maqam
(http://www.maqamworld.com/maqamat/rast.html#suznak),
but listening carefully I discovered that the "E" is
not a real sikah but it is a little sharper than a D#,
but not yet a sikah... so it sounds sweeter to my ear
than using a real sikah, and more "acceptable" to a
western ear...
I'm very interested in Al-Andalus music but I can't
find much information about it on the net!"
thank you - bill
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That is a coincidence Bill, as I was just listening to that very same song on the Paniagua CD and wondering about music for it too!
Not sure what the number means after the Maluf, but will see what I can find out.
All the best
David
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Bill,
I checked the liner notes to this CD, and in there it says:
"Music for family celebrations was collected by Mohamed al Sadiq al Rizqi (1874-1938) in his manuscript "Al-aghani al tunisiyya". These thirty songs
are based on the social, literary and artistic life and folklore of the Andalusi world."
The three tracks that have these numbers are all credited to al Rizqi, so I suspect that the numbers refer to particular songs from the thirty in his
manuscript.
All the best
David
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I have a collection of Tunisian sheet music that a friend gave me . . . if you post a sound file of the song, i'll see if I have it.
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Hi Brian
Thanks for that - I've uploaded the file here.
All the best
David
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what a gorgeous track! is the rest of the album like that?
- bill
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Hi Bill
Personally I think that is the best track on the album, but there are a couple of other nice vocal pieces in a similar vein and some great oud
taqsims. Drop me an email if you would like a few more samples.
All the best
David
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Hi everyone,
thanks Bill to forward here my email!
This piece is beatiful, so has anyone found some music sheet? It is quite simple but a few pasages aren't too clear to my ear...
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ciao davide - welcome! i'm curious as well to see how this or any of the other songs in the collection appears in notation ... what's basic melody
and what's variation or improvization.
relaxed ... paying attention - bill
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While on the subject, does anyone have the sheet music for another track on this CD: the muwashshah "Zarani al-Mahbub"?
Many thanks
David
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David,
You can find the notation for "Zarani al-mahbub" in the following article:
Scott Marcus, "The Periodization of Arab Music Theory: Continuity and Change in the Definition of the Maqamat," Pacific Review of Ethnomusicology, 5
(1989), p. 42.
As is often the case, there are variant notations and renditions of the song. If you can't get access to the notation let me know.
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I've looked through my sheet music, and unfortunately I don't have this one. It's really cool, though, so I wouldn't rule out my transcribing it at
some point.
Thanks al-Halabi for pointing out that resource . . . seems like a bunch of interesting articles.
If someone wanted to post the recording of Zarani al-Mahbub, that would be cool . . .
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Hi Brian
I have uploaded Zarani al-Mahbub here
Perhaps this version might be another candidate for future transcription...
All the best
David
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Billkilpatrick, andalousian music is based on tab' (pl. tubu') something like maqam.
In below link you will find a lot on classical arabo andalousian music, mostly on the one played in Alger area and called "çana'a".
And very few on Constantine-tunisian "malouf" or Oran-Tlemcen-moroccan "gharnati".
Although french you will find lot of sheet (partitions) and the scales, the tubu'.
Once you find on which tab' is based the song, will you tell us ??. It is too difficult for me to find it out...
http://yafil.free.fr/technique_modes.htm
And if you drop a mail to them, you will probably get a lot more infos.
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Zalzal,
Many thanks for posting the link - I have been looking for something like this for ages. Fantastic!
Best wishes
David
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Really lovely music,
could you give me any information about the CD, I am thinking of buying if I can manage to find it.
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Here's everything about that record by Musica Antigua:
http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/cds/pnu120.htm
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can somone please post the track of topic
(Tunisian song, Maluf 18, al-Rizqi # Uaddaáuni
- ¡Consoladme niñas al alba!) again or at least a sample of it?
The link on David Parfitt's post gives me an error -
Page Not Found.
hope it's not just me.
would be appreciated. i absolutely love andalusian music
and have learnt some of it (the moroccan one)
for 2 and a half years.
the vocal part, anyhow. sadly, never had a good
voice for it (or for any other music while we at it  ).
but the musical ear was always there. gonna start learn to
play the oud soon. The traditional arabic one and lets hope
the andalusian training i had would come handy by letting
me learn how to play it on the oud by myself. 
Nate.
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for those interested, there's a couple of illuminating responses to points relating to this question from an eminent e-worthie named margo over on
google's rec.music.early list:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.early?hl=en
... nothing quite so sophisticated as mike's site; you have to scroll down, back through the menu to find the original "Maluf 18, al-Rizqi#
Uaddaáuni" posting.
she plays a keyboard synthesizer which allows her to mathmatically adjust its tuning to prescribed arab modes - an "advantage" (as she says) which
automatically trains her ear to the subtilties and marvels of arabic music.
getting it ... slowly ... - bill
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This song's been killin' me for 10 years... anyone got a source for transliterated lyrics? ie "Zarani al-mahbub"
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Hello,
I would like to share with you for those who are interested two very rich resources in terms of traditional Tunisian music, El Malouf:
The first one is a youtube channel, managed by a Tunisian music teacher, Mr Ali Sayari: http://www.youtube.com/user/ALISAYARI1 a rich channel, highly recommended ^ ^
The second is a youtube channel as well , which also has a large and rich content : http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC41394A36009B1A5
Unfortunately , according to my experience , such traditional musical heritage still trasmitted to elder generations from ear to ear , from teacher to
his students , and rare are the online sharings ,almost everything is documented on old sheets or recordings which are available only for those who
get them personnaly .
Best regards
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Thanks, Oudbedis, those are great!
...and yes, I've been studying music of the Maghreb for 15 years and that's also been my experience. In-person learning is still the best, but not
always possible to find a teacher. Youtube and skype are changing that in a very strange way, but as you note, there's much that's just never yet made
it onto the webs.
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