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Dr. Oud
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Restoration - old Arabic oud
I've begun restoration of an old Arabic oud for an old friend.
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the back
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the fingerboard has a herringbone inlay, wild, huh?
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the face
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The shamsiya is warped and has pulled the edgeing away from the surrounding face. Removing it was a real challenge, after finding it was trapped under
the braces at the sides. I had to squeeze a small razor saw in and remove the corner of the brace.
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with the rose out we can see the label - translation, anyone?
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Hosam
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Very nice Richard!
The label says:
Work of Suliman Dawood Alhadad in the American (building?) Dar Alsalam
28 th of (month) 1923.
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spyrosc
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Translation
The month is "khaziran" or June in the "Syrian" naming style of months.
Good luck Richard
Spyros C.
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Jason
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That fingerboard would make me dizzy
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oudplayer
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hey doc
Did your friedn buy this or found it or where he get it from i like it alot
btw the pick guard i like its nice .
thx sammy
we are lost camels in the desert and wanna find our way to water and the water is in aden
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Dr. Oud
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The owner bought it on ebay for $100!
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oudplayer
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hey doc
well worth it
thx sammy
we are lost camels in the desert and wanna find our way to water and the water is in aden
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Here's a pic of the notched rose hole side brace. Do not use this feature as the only thing it does is make repair more difficult.
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TWith the rose removed, the edge of the hole is very fragile and broken in several places. Parchment paper is cut to overlap the seams and will be
glued inside the hole edge for reinforcement .
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Now that the big hole is reinforced and the edging replaced I can begin repairing the lower bout problems. Both eyun (small roses) are separated from
the face as well,
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so I'm gluing the down and will reinforce the edging after they are flush with the face.
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The neck end of the pegbox was chewed up..
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So I removed the back plate, and whoa! the entire pegbox was blocked, the back plate was just a veneer-
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Then I cut a piece of veneer and ironed it on with hide glue-
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Dr. Oud
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The face was still rattling after I had glued most of the cracks, so I started pushing up from the inside all around and discovered this edge was
unglued-
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Dr. Oud
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so I reglued it
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excentrik
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wow doc- looks good- how much do think an antique like this is worth (after restoration)?
I have an old oud my uncle built in the 40's. the neck is broken and repared a hundred times- the original face is gone and replaced by my other
-shoemaker- uncles shoddy work (plywood from the 60's!)...
If I can afford it- I'd like to get it restored....
anyway- looks great, we are always surprised by your work, doc-
tarik
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Dr. Oud
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The value will depend on the sound once it's playable. If it were mine I wouldn't sell it unless I couldn't play it any more, then it would be worth
several thousand dollars to me (if it has the sound I expect from an out of this maturit)y. I'm a little concerned with the age of the face. It's near
the condition where it could fail under string pressure, but time will tell. Even so, with the face replaced with an accurate reproduction using the
original braces, the soumd can be ressurected as I ahave xperinced with the Hamza Usta and Gamil Georges. I'm curious if this maker was an ancestor of
Mahmoud Haddad who built ouds in Syria during the era of George Nahat & Fils. A mystery to be solved no doubt.
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the neck was fitted and glued on
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I noticed that the pegbox didn't fit the neck notch, dang!
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