Jameel
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Tahmila Suznak
I know this isnt strictly about oud, but I noticed while listening to Tahmila Suznak by Shaheen that the rhythm changes between malfuf and maqsoum.
Brian Prunka's music states that it's all malfuf, but I can hear some changes. Anyone know exactly when each is done, or is it just by
taste. By the way, it's a great song.
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Jameel, I'm basically guessing here... in the tahmilah, the intro is done, and then another short part... and then it goes into this C C C C C C
G.... C C C C C C G... and then someone has a solo right then, I believe. Right when it starts at C C C C C C G, I believe that's where the
iqaat changes. Now, I don't know much of iqaat, so bare with me if I incorrectly answered your question.
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maqsoum: G Ab B Ab G... F G Ab G F... E- F G F E- ... D E- F E- D... C D E- D C... Ab G Ab B Ab G... F G Ab G F... E- F G F E-... D E- F E- D...
C D E- D C
C (lower-toned G)... G C D E- F G E- F E- D E-... F G E- F E- D E- F G F E- D C... (higher-toned G) C... G F G Ab G F E- D... E- F G F E- D.. C
D E- D D C... G G F G F E- F D... E- F G F E- D C.. C C D E- F G E- F E- D E-... F G E- F E- D E- F G F E- D C... G G F G F E- F D... E- F G F
E- D C...
malfuf: C C C C C C (low G) C C C C C C (low G) C C C C C C (low G).... etc. etc.
I'm just doin it from my head, so I don't really know if it sounds like this or not. I'm not a master of the tahmilah, and far off from
a master of notes. By the way, E- means E half flat (like in Bayati on D, and Rast). Hope someone can confirm this notation. If I'm wrong, be my
guest and correct it.
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You're right, it does change usually. I've heard people use do it differently on different occasions, but the most common is to use malfuf
for everything except the responses in the call-and-response section.
I need to get corrections up for some of those charts, but I installed Finale 2004 and it screwed everything up . . .
for anyone who downloaded those charts, here are some typos/corrections I've noticed:
Longa Shahnaz: should be b half-flat in m.39
Longa Nihavent: m.6-7,9 are F#, there are some other minor changes that are hard to explain . . .
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i just reread my post, and i'm not sure if it was clear . . .
In tahmilah suznak, the call-and-response section alternates between malfuf (soloist) and maqsum (ensemble).
I have several versions of the piece. It seems that the rhythm may be varied somewhat according to taste, although it should change along with the
phrasing of the melody.
Here are some alternative ways of playing it: A. use maqsum for mm.1-10, malfuf for mm.11-16 etc.
B. use maqsum for the whole first part, and malfuf for the entire call-and-response section
hope this is helpful,
Brian
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Jameel
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Thanks Brian for the clarification. If you wouldn't mind posting a couple of the other renditions you have (I only have the one from Turath) that
would be great.
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Thanks, too. Although I don't quite follow what you wrote It looks like
you put some effort into it. Thanks though
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Jameel, I made an attempt to post the notes for the tahmilah, from the start until where the iqaat changes. I hope it made at least some sense.
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Hello Fine People 
You guyes seem to have a very interesting issue here , Where can I download that Tahmela from.? I would like to have a listen to it please.
Thanks
Emad
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Hey Emad. Good to see you around. You can get the intro part for the tahmilah here:
http://maqamworld.com/realaudio/clips/suznak/suznak_tahmilah_redoua...
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Thank you lots man.
you always there for me. I appreceiate that.
Regards
Emad
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No problem, bro. I hope you liked the Tahmilah.
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Emad and others,
I uploaded the whole thing.
Tahmila Suznak--Simon Shaheen
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Much Appreciated
Hi Jameel
I do thank you for uploading the whole Tahmelah for us. A good man is a man who'd go out of his way to please others.
Good on you mate 
Emad
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Hi guys!
Tahmila Suznak ROCK! Thanks Jameel for uploading the whole thing here and thanks to Brian n TP21 also for clearing up some notes for us to learn the
tune-Im definately going to check this one out!
Regards
Zul
***a slowdown version perhaps?
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Hey everyone. As far as Simon Shaheen's interpretation of the tahmila, it is slightly different than what I learned previously. I guess there
seems to be different versions of it. Anyways, the way he does it is slowed down here:
Click here to download the slowed version
Click here to stream the slowed version
Zul, I hope this helps you out. I'll post the version I learned soon.
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TP21 ROCK!!
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Here's the version I learned:
Click here to download
Click here to stream
The notes that I posted above are the transposed version of this one. Therefore, the notes may not match up with the way Simon Shaheen plays it
entirely, but it is from the same key that he plays it on.
*Note: this version is on a different key, but I just posted it as a reference to how I've heard the original interpretation of the song.
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