Chris_Khouri
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Playing on my Fake Fadel
Hi guys listen to a little recording I did. I hope you like it.
Hilal
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akram
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hi chris
i love the sound of the oud, is it that good or the recording made it good?
the sound is like the old oud's
akram
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Chris_Khouri
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Hi Akram
I think it sounds ok. The recording makes it sound a little deeper though I think. I haven't played any other ouds for several years so I can't tell
for sure lol, but Ronny told me this is not a real fadel, and also the action is kinda high.
Hilal
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Sounds real old school Chris. I like it. Reminds me of Farid Ghosn.
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Chris_Khouri
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Thanks Jameel
Hi Jameel,
Thanks for your comment. I think the old school effect comes from the fact that I played and was influenced by the khaliji music alot. The
improvision is very sharp and quick.
Chris
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kkeys
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Chris,
Very nice.... I really like the old school feel,, I am not impressed with any of the new ones (anouar Brahim aside)
I consider the Kahigi oud players to be the real oud kings...
Again beautiful piece
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Thanks
Thank you Kkeys for your comment. It really motivated me alot. I love Khaliji oud music. I am so used to it cause I was raised there.
Hilal
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You wecome, I wouldn;t say that if I wasnt really impressed,
I am like you raised in the gulf area, later in Syria, and still think that the khaligi oud players capture the rhythem in their playing like no
other...nobody gets you high like Mohammad Abdo or Abdallah Roushid playing their ouds...
Cheers
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Chris_Khouri
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That is really cool Kkey, I was raised in Qatar. There is always this special nostolgia you feel if you were raised in the Gulf. What state did you
live in?
Hilal
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I also like very much khaligi music and it is true that they kill rythmically speaking. Mohammed Abdo is not only a good player but a fantastic
singer.
I think we can consider also Abadi al Johar a khaligi player, i do not know.
I know little on khaligi oud players. Have you any other recommendation ??
This khaligi people are issued fm this great tradition coming fm far far back in history and it reminds me of the jahiliyya poet Antara, with african
slave origins, who wrote a famous verse saying more or less that after them what else could be written. Like Zyriab who was also fm African origin
and an accomplished great player and singer.
Yr taqsim is very nice. Thankyou
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Chris_Khouri
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Agree with Zalzal
Hi Zalzal,
I think the proximity of the Gulf Area to India, from which they were influenced rythem wise, and to Africa, from which they borrowed certain beats,
had made their music very distinctive.
ABdul Majeed is not bad either. He's from Suaudi Arabia.
Chris
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kkeys
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Chris,
I was raised in Kuwait,
and I don't agree that there is an indian influence, as the rhythems are completely different,,,,, complicated but doesn;t have anything todo with
Indian.
I don;t know why people like to link things back to india, just because they used to travel there does not mean that they were influenced as the
Arabic scales are much more complicated than the indian ones......completely different instruments....... and there is nothing in the arabic music
resembles a raga...
Completel different types of music..
Khaligi music has a mood of its own.... as for a recommended recordings... Abdallah roushid has a series of tapes called (Lylet Omor Part
1,2,3,...)... where he plays oud with percussion exclusively .... no other instruments
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Well kkeys, if you check this previous post it seems there has been in the past some kind of, let us not say influence, but exchange of musics,
between India and gulf. I mean music flies over borders, music does not know what the word nation mean.
You are right pointing that influence is not the riight word, i prefer exchange.
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=4959#pid320...
What is this khaligi makam??
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kkeys
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This is in reference to the link Zalzal provided
Is this a joke or what,
How come the oud "came from India to Kuwait" ?????? What Indian oud maker is there.... and where is that instrument right now....
Yes it sounds nostalgic to link some influences or exchange.... but I dont think it is true (Personal Opinion).... and this guy can say what ever he
wants...
As for Kuwait being almost part of Iraq.... I tend to believe the oud came from there..the Yeman theory is acceptable as well...
As for somebody studied in India, just like many arabic musicians that studies opera and piano and now playing and composin strictly arabic music... I
truely dont find anything Indian in Khaligi music,,,,,,, the moment abadi or anyother oud player tries to immitate Indian sitar in is taqasim music
it is very obvious that it is another type of music.... just like many that try immitating the flamenco guitar on the oud... it sounds funny and
immature on the behalf of the player...
And yes you can link a music to a nation, Balalika: Russians , Saz: Turkish, Oud : Arabic, Piano: Europe, Guitar: Spain.......and..so on
We can play together though.... I once had a clip for Munir Bashir with an organ and an opera singer, and it sounded heavenly....
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zalzal
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Paco de Lucia plays some seconds on oud in Almoraima track here (as fm 1:20 till 1:34 more or less).
http://images.painandsorrow.multiply.com/song/1/3498/full/U2FsdGVkX...
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kkeys
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Zalzal,
First, nice website
Any yes I know this part of Almoraima, and it fits this buleria like nothing else.... an example of great tast on the behalf of Paco... perfectly
done.
And it actually sounds like Khaligi oud/ taksim..
Thanks
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Kkeys, you noticed it also??
When listening at Chris Khouri taqsim it reminded me somehow of these old and very very short incursions of Paco de Lucia with oud.
Sounds that are both somehow sharp, quick but not fast, rythmic and beat,
Sounds that come fm each extreme of the arab world (Al andalus- Khalig)
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Chris_Khouri
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Hi Zalzal
Hi Zalzal,
Very nice website. It's very nicely organized, and also easy to navigate. I loved the pictures of the ouds they were amazing. Unfortunately I dont
have sound at work so I couldn't to hear any of the musical pieces. Thank you very much for listening to my recording and your nice comment.
Hilal
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