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Ronny Andersson
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Nahat for $14.000
Expensive
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Ronny
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Adel
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Their is a Manol oud for sale in Paris.
It's going for 15.000 Euro.
Salamat,
Adel
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Mike
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They don't even have a picture of it!
LOOK
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mavrothis
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Wait, let me sell my car, and we can talk business...hehehe
later,
mav
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Zulkarnain
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Hi
What type of car you have bro? Maybe I can buy from you! Let me know some details ok..make, year, mileage, condition etc. and how much it cost to
ship it abroad (Malaysia-I give u my full add when we have a deal ok?)
Salam
**still waiting for my first driving licence!
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Jameel
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If the oud keeps gaining in popularity, the chance of owning a nice Nahat will be extremely difficult. Most of the pros use a Nahat. So....are there
any builders out there who are making ouds like the Nahat family used to?? I mean, really trying to duplicate the bracing, decoration---every aspect.
If I had more time (and it would be lucrative) I would try to duplicate the Nahat style and sound to the best of my ability. To me, they are the
nicest ouds Take this one for example. I've posted this before, but not sure if you've all seen it. Hunna Nahat 1928:
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mavrothis
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Hi. I probably already told you this, but D. Rapakousios is making me a Syrian style oud based on the Nahat design, with one soundhole like yours.
It's not going to be decorated at all, but the size, proportions, and bracing are based on Nahat. Which Nahat I'm not sure, but I'm
very excited to see the result.
It should be ready in about a month...I'll be sure to post pics and sound. I definitely wouldn't mind having some original Nahats, Manols,
etc though.
mav
ps-Zul, I don't think I can part with my car just yet, and plus, even if I did, it wouldn't bring in 15 grand. oh well )
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Ronny Andersson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jameel
If the oud keeps gaining in popularity, the chance of owning a nice Nahat will be extremely difficult. Most of the pros use a Nahat. So....are there
any builders out there who are making ouds like the Nahat family used to?? I mean, really trying to duplicate the bracing, decoration---every aspect.
If I had more time (and it would be lucrative) I would try to duplicate the Nahat style and sound to the best of my ability. To me, they are the
nicest ouds Take this one for example. I've posted this before, but not sure if you've all seen it. Hunna Nahat 1928:
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Yes Jameel, I believe to find a Nahat with a reasonable price is not possible and the only option is buy a copy. But then most we have access to a
wide range of originals and that seems to be difficult. Also the price for a new built copy will most likely be very high when the lutemaker is
probably located in Europe or USA.
I recall that Adel was telling about a copy being built in France and I belive Wolfgang Früh in Paris made a copy.
Best wishes
Ronny
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Adel
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yes , this is right Ronny,
You could ask Wolfgang how much he charges for a very basic copy of Nahat which I saw not long ago...
He charges 3.200 Euro for a basic copy...
Salamat,
Adel
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Adel
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Another Nahat copy which I saw in the UK made by Luthier Martin Bower in Essex.
You can see this oud on David Parfitt website.
the asking price was 5.000 Euro
Salamat,
Adel
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Ronny Andersson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Adel
yes , this is right Ronny,
You could ask Wolfgang how much he charges for a very basic copy of Nahat which I saw not long ago...
He charges 3.200 Euro for a basic copy...
Salamat,
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Adel, I can immagine then the price for a decorated one...
I know that Früh is very expensive also with other makers ouds.
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Ronny
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mavrothis
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Dimitris Rapakousios is much more affordable. If you guys like, wait a few weeks and you'll be able to see and hear the oud and decide if
you'd like one from him as well.
mav
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spyros mesogeia
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Dear friends,
Dimitris has the elements of his Nahat exactly from a Nahat imported from Syria...We have the luck that mr Yazdjian is from there,so after alot of
searching about the instrument, elements and details of it, it is possible Dimitris to make a copy from the original one ....
Many secrets on his Syrian type ouds are based on the original....
I personally can asure you that the price is much lower than the prices that I heard....
I personally own a Syrian type made by Dimitris,and I am very satisfited with this instrument,
If you wish I can send you by mail his pricelist...
Contact me for more details....or If you wish,you can play some of his instruments { I own 2} a syrian type,a turkish type,and now I am waiting a
Bashir type,but I have to wait some months.....he works alone and it takes some time.
He is the kind of person that likes to work too much,and speaks just a little....
He wants his instruments to speak for him,and first of all he loves this instrument as we do,even more ,because he give us the happiness to enjoy this
instrument by building it,as all the oudmakers all over the world.
It will be my pleasure to visit us and play together with us....
Regards to all
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spyros mesogeia
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As for the Manol,
I own a Manol copy decorated with Ivory and turtle skin....
And I can asure you that the price to build an instrument like that is less than 15000 euros,much lower too,and the details are the same,you see we
have all the technology to understand the details and make the dream come true...
Maybe you believe that I oversaying some things,but I invite you to play them and tell me your opinions....
I love the quality ouds as you do,and I do many many sacrifices to have them,as we all do,it is our love,our pasion,our bless....
regards
spyros
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Al Billings
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Nahat in Paris
A Good friend of mine who is also an experienced oud player examined and played that Nahat copy at Wolgang's shop a few months ago. He said that
it is beautifully constructed, based on a historic Nahat in a Parisian museum. But my friend also reported that as beautiful as that oud is, it's
lowest string, bass dokah, lacks any real bass response. My friend said that Wolfgang agreed. Buy now, he might have done further work on the oud and
resolved this problem.
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Ronny Andersson
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Here's a link to the oud Al was telling about Nahat Paris Just write oud in the search box and voila! It's made by Georges Nahat.
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Ronny
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Adel
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OK Al Billings,
I saw that oud and played it.
Yes your friend is right, the bass is not that strong and the top strings were very good...
I see Wolfgang all the time, and I keep saying to him and many oud makers, they make excellent copies of Nahat, but none has acheived the same quality
of Nahat when it comes to sound.
Salamat,
Adel
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Adel
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Ronny,
I do know this oud, I like it , but it's in a museum....it should be in an oud player hands....don't you agree?
Salamat,
Adel
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Ronny Andersson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mike
They don't even have a picture of it!
LOOK |
They have now LOOKALOOKA
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Ronny
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Ronny Andersson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Adel
Ronny,
I do know this oud, I like it , but it's in a museum....it should be in an oud player hands....don't you agree?
Salamat,
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Adel, I'm one who really find it depressing to see rare quality instruments stored in Museums or on a collectors wall.
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Ronny
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Adel
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Thanks Ronny,
salamat,
Adel
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Ronny Andersson
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>I see Wolfgang all the time, and I keep >saying to him and many oud makers, >they make excellent copies of Nahat, but >none has acheived
the same quality of >Nahat when it comes to sound.
>Salamat,
I believe a majority of makers have only examined very few Nahat ouds and that
It’s not enough to fully understand an oud maker’s work (not only one here...). Also the soundboards materials on the originals aren’t spruce
that the modern replicas have. But is a lucrative market when many players on different levels want the ¨ultimate oud¨ so it is very good that you
Adel tell your opinion.
Best wishes
Ronny
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Adel
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That is very right Ronny.
By the way, how could I contact you?
salamat,
Adel
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Ronny Andersson
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Adel, just fire away a mail to masaniello@telia.com
I don't have acces to my e-mail before monday when I'm visiting my parents from today.
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Ronny
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Ronny Andersson
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What the Nahat familiy deserves is a serious research project.
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Ronny
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