tsugumi
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Hana Nahat on eBay
Hello
http://cgi.ebay.com/OLD-ANTIQUE-SYRIAN-RARE-WOODEN-OUD-HANA-NAHAT-Y...
I don't know,it's real or fake.
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tsugumi
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Alan-TX
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Thats palmyrami. For some unknown reason the old store was removed from ebay and they have started up again under this new name epalmyra
On their website they have what looks like the same oud for 2k dollars more.
http://www.palmyrami.com/index.php?categoryID=120
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charlie oud
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Dont know, it looks the part. The seller however, uses the word "rare" for the Sukar ouds he also sells even though Sukar turns em out by the dozen!.
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Marina
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Actualy, a few weeks ago I played on REAL Nahat, my friend from Nazereth bought it from somebody in Syria. Paied 2500$. It looks rather similar to
this one. Of cours, I say similar, because who can know for shure just from photo...
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SamirCanada
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I think this one is legit.
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MatthewW
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Samir, do you think its the real McCoy? many members have had less than satisfatory experiences with Palmyrami.
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Samer
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Dear All,
First of all, I was not removed from ebay, my account is still running but I dont want to sell everything from one store, epalmyra will be a music
instruments store, and palmyrami will be for for everything else. We are restructuring our on line business to improve our clients satisfaction.
Buyers Satisfaction has improved a lot lately, number of members bought from me and they were very happy with their purchase.
Regarding the Nahat oud, I’m starting the oud for such a low price compare it to our website price knowing the price will go up to the same amount
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I’m %100 sure that the oud real and original We did a lot of effort and consult some oud experts to verify this oud.
I’m willing to give a full refund including shipping cost to the winner within one week if you find out that this oud is fake or some parts of it
are not original.
Please feel free to contact me if u have any question.
Regards
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Alan
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the photo is certainly Hanna
The calligraphy in the rosette looks authentic. The oud has the right shape. Looks real to me
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shareen
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Palmyrami's (E-Palmyra) Nahat
I don't know...I looked up Palmyrami's e-bay site again to see if he in fact, is separating his instruments in one store, and the "other stuff" in
another store, as he claims, but still, his old store is gone. I really like to give people the benefit of the doubt, in fact, I'd love to own a real
Nahat and am thinking of his, but after a few unpleasant dealings with this seller, would kick myself if I plunked down $2000 plus and got an
instrument that needed $1000 or more in restoration work. No one likes surprises when it comes to an instrument. Real or not, buying a 90 year old
instrument is a tricky proposition if you don't actually touch and feel it and examine it very carefully. Any thoughts folks? 
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charlie oud
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I tend to agree with you Shareen, an oud of that age would be more attractive if a luthier could report/confirm its condition or if you could play it
before purchase. Having said that my understanding is that Nahat ouds seem to have a reputation for being well cared for. A teasing choice awaits
anyone interested in this oud without trying it first. However, the seller has stated clearly above that a full refund will be made if returned in
seven days which is reasonable I suppose if it is not possible to try before you buy. C
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SamirCanada
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If it needs 1000$ of restoration and its a real Nahat I would say its worth it.
my .02$
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Brian Prunka
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Not all Nahats have been well cared for, it's just the ones that haven't don't tend to be the ones that get the attention.
If this is the original face, it's probably worth it even if it needs a fair amount of work.
If it's not the original face, there's no telling what it sounds like.
It looks to me like the original face, but there is some damage to it, it's impossible to tell if it's been repaired or not. The pegs look like the
original Nahat pegs.
Palmyrami's original store is still there:
http://stores.ebay.com/palmyrami_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm
It looks like epalmyra is selling things besides musical instruments, though.
I would like to trust Samer, since he's the only person importing Sukar ouds regularly, and he seems to have been making an effort to deal honestly
with people. But it's always wise to be cautious with buying an instrument you haven't played, especially one so expensive. Even with the best
intentions, he's not a player and so can't really verify the value of the oud the way someone like oudprof can.
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Samer
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Thanks Brain, I have improved a lot lately, I had couple issues or missunderstanding but they are solved, I have sold number of ouds to mikeouds
members and they were happy !
why dont you check my palmyrami store now. In 10 days you will see how Im separating the music insturments in a store and the rest of the items in
another.
If anyone has an issue with palmyrami why does not he or she report it ? palmyrami@gmail.com
You have 7 days to try the oud, if you dont like it just repack it and ship it back for a full refund including shipping cost !
the oud is in a great condition, does not need any fixing. you can see that from the pictures.
We really made a lot of effort to buy this oud, We were offered over 100 most were either fake or in a very bad condition. We ended up buying like 5.
2 for Nahat for 3 for other makers.
Please feel free to ask me if you have any question, We just purchased Fadel oud its a piece of art, but needs nearly 2 months to be in the US.
Take care,
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