dubai244
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Taar & piano
Hi,
I just saw this video today and it is first time i see Taar playing with piano. I always loved TAAR and i wished to own one and i didnt get the chance
yet.
Taar is irainian instrument and it sounds like bouzouki
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO80BCj9Ozk&feature=related
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Taar Concerto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADXmbdwVYKo&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itm68DT3Ba8&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9hLkQP7m1U&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2FljbdGKLA&feature=related
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Thanks Dubai
The Taar is so popular in Azarbejian in which gypsy music is so popular there.
Rufat Hasanov is an amazing Taar player
Here he is playing Czardas, a music that I mentioned in another post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyCZ758QeJg
Rufat on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=Rufat+...
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I did like the tar concerto (second post) - beautiful and interesting music - and it did sound Middle Eastern music, in spite of the Western classical
music concerto form and the Western orchestra.
The others - I´m sorry, I don´t want to offend anybody, but the other clips are of very little interest to me. The players are excellent
technicians, that´s sure. But WHY play Western classical music "showpieces" on Middle Eastern instruments? To show it can be done - sure, but why. It
is possible to play Bach cello suites on ukulele (and yes, it´s been done), but the result offers little musical extra value. I have played those
suites on mandolin for myself as the music itself is so great, but I really don´t believe a mandolin could add anything to what that music sounds on
cello. OK, if you are really an experts technically, you can play The Fight of the Bumblebee on tuba (and that´s been done, too) to show you are one
hell of a virtuoso on that instrument, but the result is more a novelty showpiece than anything more.
To me, the beauty and richness of Middle Eastern music lies very much on the makams/dastgahs/ragas etc with microtonal intervals and the wealth of
melodic possibilies you can never play on a Western piano with its equal-tempered tuning. If you play Western music on oud or tar, you lose that, you
just play Western music on an unusual instrument.
I don´t know enough of the music history in Azerbaijan, but in many areas of former Soviet Union the cultural agenda was to make the local musics
"progress" by implementing Western music stardards. That´s why there were (maybe still are) Central Asian folk instruments made with steel frets and
Western chromatic fretting. Make a traditional instrument "better" by grafting basically a balalaika neck to original body. To play Csardas on tar
with a grand piano accompaniment, you have to have equally-tempered fretting on the tar.
Sounds really sad, and reminds me of the late 19th century American classical banjoists who were embarrassed of the "low" African slave background of
their instruments, and wanted everywhere to stress they played "real" art music. They called themselves "elevated" banjoists. Really.
But the tar concerto was great to hear. It was proud of its heritage.
Arto
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Hi Arto,
I totally agree with what you said above. And i am one of those who believe that people should stick to there culture and folks music. And you are
right when you said that these kind of instrument should be played in way that they made for.
Having said that, I just discovered that they use TAAR in azerbijan and i dont really know if that what they play in azerbijan as folk culture music.
But if you look at azerbijan geoghrapically position, they are in middle between "asian" and europe. so they might got effected by europian culture,
so that's why the guy in video plays what did he played because it might be part of azerbijani culture " i am guessing here".
But what he played there was some thing really imazing and it is really appreciated and still within limit and it can be catagorized as azerbijani
culture. But i have seen some people use easten instruments in Rock bands which is really out of leag and out of culture tones and without historige
background and doesn't present any culture.
As good example, The famous oud player Munir Bashir Played Rock and Roll with his oud and he was attacked by some many musician about what he did and
his answer was "I want to show people what oud can do and oud is limited like some people say and I challenge the oud player if they can play what i
played with my oud ...". So he want to prove his skills more than prove the identi of the oud. that's why he was well received in his parties in
europe and USA.
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