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[*] posted on 9-15-2009 at 12:21 AM
Building my first oud


hello every oud builders,
After reading and reading again all the topics of this forum ,I took the decision to build an oud ,following the instruction of Dr oud's book and the experience of Jameel .
I did not dare to build with an open form ,so I build a mould in order to have a control of the volume .I have wood working experiences but compared to Dr oud and Jameel mines look like those of a carpenter !I do not intend to describe of the phases which are common to the realisations already presented in this forum , but I just want to share new tips I experimented and have comments wether I am in the wrong or good track. I will try to keep informed of the progress and send some pictures
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[*] posted on 9-15-2009 at 01:01 AM


I used tapes for the first ribs but noticed that the tension relaxed after ten minutes causing some gaps .So I took advantage of the moulde by using wedges to clamp the ribs .
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[*] posted on 9-15-2009 at 01:10 AM


simple bending iron but it works
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[*] posted on 9-15-2009 at 01:19 AM


Back finished ,hum...not perfect but it the first shot!
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[*] posted on 9-15-2009 at 08:18 AM


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I used tapes for the first ribs but noticed that the tension relaxed after ten minutes causing some gaps .So I took advantage of the moulde by using wedges to clamp the ribs .
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On your next oud take the time to fine tune the fit of the ribs. Forcing them together will create inherent stress in the back and this can lead to cracks and seam splits in the future, even with only a slight bump. - Nice job in any case.




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[*] posted on 9-15-2009 at 10:44 AM


And only at a 100% flat sides of both ribs you can get a fine join. Flating the ribs is one of the secrest you would like to master, because when they are both flat, a masking tape is enouph to join the ribs wihtout stress.
Good luck and keep up the good work
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[*] posted on 9-15-2009 at 11:42 AM


as far my expierence concerns the first rib (mother rib) is very critical to be putted without stress at the edges.It must be similar as it was laying on the table and flattened 100% on the table.Putting a small force and twisting it,must be corrected in the exact next ribs because as the ribs incresse the stress increases and perhaps the bowl will never be finished.
the ideal is to match the ribs without even a tape just by a small touch..It will never break in the future..But i repeat ...in order to have the last ribs identical the EXCELLENT FLATTENED MOTHER RIB MUST BE PUTTED WITH THE MINIMUM TWIST OF THE THE EDGES...
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[*] posted on 9-15-2009 at 10:42 PM
Nice work


Good luck!



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[*] posted on 9-16-2009 at 07:06 AM


thanks for your comments. I think next time I will try the open form ,although the wedges I used on the mould did not force the ribs but just maintain them in place .Anyway there is way for improvement...
Now I am trying the inlays .For the back I used a piece of antler found in the forest (deers loose their antlers every year).As it is harder than wood it was necessary to sand it as thinner as possible before glueing it . I used a piece of wood with the rough shape of the inlay in order to sand it on the "sand board".Some examples on the following pictures

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[*] posted on 9-16-2009 at 07:09 AM


other pictures

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[*] posted on 9-16-2009 at 07:13 AM



sanding the inlay
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[*] posted on 9-16-2009 at 07:29 AM


Next task is the bracing .I red many things about the braces but still have concerns about the lateral position to each others after fitting to the back and then transfering to the sound board .Is the center line the only reference ? Is there any tips to secure the locating on the sound board ?
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[*] posted on 9-16-2009 at 07:57 AM


Hi GUY,

Thanks for sharing the project, the bowl has some cool grain, and the tailpiece inlay looks great. Best of luck on the rest.

Regards..Paul
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[*] posted on 9-16-2009 at 08:05 AM


Thanks Paulo
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[*] posted on 9-16-2009 at 11:32 AM


as far as traditional oud concerns it has 7 braces.The most critical is the one which is placed after the bridge below...in my opinion its has great importance as it determines the "equalizer" it a high degree.
in my researches i will try to learn about the golden rule "φ" which was used in my country Greece in ancient years to build everything in symmetry.perhaps brace's symmetry is behind a great sound.There is not magical recipe,but continious experiments under theory's shadow...But think of symmetry in everything you make...
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[*] posted on 9-16-2009 at 11:09 PM


Thanks for your advice Theodoropoulos.
I am thinking about a jig to transfert the whole braces on the soundboard .But it is not mature at the moment
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[*] posted on 9-21-2009 at 12:08 PM


This is a small device I made to perform good edges for the circular grouves which will receive the inlay.The use of the router for this was not satisfying even with high speed and I use it only to eliminate the material up to half a milimeter to the edges.The rest is eliminated by hand with a chisel whith is an easy task due to the fact that the blade of the device goes 1mm deep
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[*] posted on 9-21-2009 at 12:12 PM


Fist inlays in place .I made an error with the router for the rosace .So it will be a little wider than the original I wanted
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[*] posted on 9-26-2009 at 11:17 AM


In order to size the inlays of the rosace I built a tool made of 4 discs .The first sized of the internal diameter covered with sand paper , the second is used first to sand the inlays to the internal diameter .This disc has 3 positions corresponding to the different width of the inlays and can be clamp for each position with a pin (or a bolt as shown in the picture.
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[*] posted on 9-26-2009 at 11:28 AM


The white disc is shape to the internal diameter and makes possible to keep the right lenght during the external diameter sanding .The forth disc is to maintain the inlay in position. I have the chance to own a turning lathe ,so it was easy to make the discs with acuracy
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[*] posted on 9-26-2009 at 11:31 AM


The result :
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[*] posted on 9-26-2009 at 12:35 PM


Well done job. Go on guy.




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[*] posted on 9-27-2009 at 05:43 AM


Hey guy


im very interested on building an oud my self
i got "Dr. Oud" book and i keep on reeding everything i can find on this topic
i love your work till now
keep on this way

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[*] posted on 9-27-2009 at 08:53 AM


Hi Aytayfun
Teçekür ederim for your encouragements !
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[*] posted on 9-27-2009 at 11:42 AM


Thanks Rotemor
I follow also Dr oud' book which is my base of building and also the explanations of Jameel. I hesitated a long time before starting my project , but now I realize that is a fantastic experience whatever the result will be .I am not a professional but thanks this forum it is possible to learnt a lot of things .So start your project ,whatever the duration will be ,it is a good exercise for the soul.
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