shayrgob
Oud Maniac
Posts: 57
Registered: 9-23-2009
Location: Chi-Town!
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
New member!
Hey guys/gals!
My dad just bought me an oud from Syria and it's an absolute piece of junk! There's a piece of wood stuck inside and you can see the glue, the strings
overlap, etc.
Anyway, needless to say I don't know much about the oud. I just started playing the guitar 2 months ago but I'm much more passionate about the oud.
I have a ? What is the difference between the oud and the lute. The only diff I noticed is that lutes have frets and ouds don't. Is that all?
thanks!!!
|
|
fernandraynaud
Oud Junkie
Posts: 1865
Registered: 7-25-2009
Location: San Francisco, California
Member Is Offline
Mood: m'Oudy
|
|
pretty much ...
|
|
Christian1095
Oud Junkie
Posts: 454
Registered: 4-29-2008
Location: North Carolina, USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Yeah, for the most part...
Dude, post a pic of the oud... I've never seen overlapping strings... Perhaps it could be a cautionary tale.
Chris Walters
|
|
shayrgob
Oud Maniac
Posts: 57
Registered: 9-23-2009
Location: Chi-Town!
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Christian1095 | Yeah, for the most part...
Dude, post a pic of the oud... I've never seen overlapping strings... Perhaps it could be a cautionary tale. |
haha I will when I go back home next week....I'm so tempted to smash it
|
|
MatthewW
Oud Junkie
Posts: 1031
Registered: 11-5-2006
Location: right here
Member Is Offline
Mood: Al Salam
|
|
hi welcome to the forum- if your'e in Chicago contact for oud info, etc-
http://www.issaboulos.com/
|
|
Franck
Oud Junkie
Posts: 145
Registered: 8-21-2007
Location: Montréal, Québec
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Hi, the lute is played with the fingers and the thumb, while the oud can be played with fingers, it is mostly played with a long pick (traditionally
made of an eagle's feather, hence the arabic name risha (feather), it can also be made of bull's horn. The Turkish name of the pick is mızrap
(pronounced m'zrap)). The lute is used to play polyphonic music from the Renaissance while the oud is mostly a melodic instrument. The fact that the
oud doesn't have frets allows the playing of micro tones used in oriental music.
Hope it helps.
|
|
shayrgob
Oud Maniac
Posts: 57
Registered: 9-23-2009
Location: Chi-Town!
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
[/url]
Issa is only available on a certain weekday at 4pm....which wouldn't work for me. I did find Ronnie Malley at the Old Town School of Folk Music. I'll
be taking a class there soon!
|
|
shayrgob
Oud Maniac
Posts: 57
Registered: 9-23-2009
Location: Chi-Town!
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Chris:
In the following pic you can see that the single string isn't placed where it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be at the top???
one more for the hell of it:
|
|
Christian1095
Oud Junkie
Posts: 454
Registered: 4-29-2008
Location: North Carolina, USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Contact Jameel at Khalaf Ouds and get new strings.... that might be half the problem...
Also, it's not super critical for your bass string to be directly on the fingerboard... Meaning, it's certainly nice to have it, but since you
mostly use that top string for drones... it's not the worst that could happen... and I'm guessing the thing is still playable... As long as the neck
is straight, it holds together, it should make a sound...
I guess it would be like getting a cheapo guitar... the action might be super high -- but it's better than a picture and you can still have fun with
it....
But I'd change those strings out right away....
Chris Walters
|
|
fhalaw
Oud Junkie
Posts: 144
Registered: 7-9-2009
Location: Montreal, Qc
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
not necessarily,
Munir Bashir had the BASS fa string at the end.
|
|
dss
Oud Lover
Posts: 11
Registered: 3-15-2005
Location: NY
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Related question on the bass string pictured...
I've seen those "red strings" on other random oud pictures and was wondering who makes those? Are those one of the Pyramid packages?
(hoping not to hijack your thread here and good luck w/ the new oud)
|
|
shayrgob
Oud Maniac
Posts: 57
Registered: 9-23-2009
Location: Chi-Town!
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Christian1095 | Contact Jameel at Khalaf Ouds and get new strings.... that might be half the problem...
Also, it's not super critical for your bass string to be directly on the fingerboard... Meaning, it's certainly nice to have it, but since you
mostly use that top string for drones... it's not the worst that could happen... and I'm guessing the thing is still playable... As long as the neck
is straight, it holds together, it should make a sound...
I guess it would be like getting a cheapo guitar... the action might be super high -- but it's better than a picture and you can still have fun with
it....
But I'd change those strings out right away.... |
Chris: Look closely and you will see two strings at the top where there is only supposed to be one. What's the deal with that?
|
|
fhalaw
Oud Junkie
Posts: 144
Registered: 7-9-2009
Location: Montreal, Qc
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
It does not matter..
just restring the oud that way you want it with new strings.
AS I said, Munir bashir had this type of set up
2
2
2
2
2
1 <- Bass FA
|
|
fhalaw
Oud Junkie
Posts: 144
Registered: 7-9-2009
Location: Montreal, Qc
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Or maybe get the Daniel Mari set.. they are 8 bucks.
Search the forms for the link.
Cheers!
|
|
Yori
Oud Lover
Posts: 15
Registered: 6-27-2008
Location: Sutton, Quebec
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Hi shayrgob ,
Could this be a left-handed oud?
Yori
Mundo Instruments
mundo.instruments@gmail.com
|
|
Christian1095
Oud Junkie
Posts: 454
Registered: 4-29-2008
Location: North Carolina, USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
It's just different... As I understand it, way back when, it wasn't common to see ouds with a drone string.. then it became common.... Check out
some of OudProff's videos on Youtube... If memory serves me right, he plays with 6 double courses and no drone
Chris Walters
|
|