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Score for Samai Shedaraban/ Sedaraban

Luttgutt - 6-16-2011 at 06:10 AM

Hei all!

Anybody has the score for this samai Shadaraban by tambori Cemil bey?

Thanks in advance

Branko - 6-16-2011 at 06:46 AM

http://www.neyzen.com/nota_arsivi/02_klasik_eserler/089_sedaraban/s...

bulerias1981 - 6-20-2011 at 08:39 AM

I have an Arabic transcription to Shad Araban from Re

Attachment: samai-shad-arban-D.pdf (122kB)
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Jono Oud N.Z - 6-21-2011 at 03:39 PM

There are some problems with the 'D' version of the piece.
Maqam Shadaraban begins on the high octave and descends to the low octave eventually. This chart begins on the low octave..
Also Shadaraban is in nawa/yekah in Arabic tuning not dukah. Here is my transposed version in 'G'.
Sorry, some of the lines didn't come out properly when I exported the score from Sibelius.


Samai Shadaraban - Tanburi Jamil Bey 1.bmp - 116kB Samai Shadaraban - Tanburi Jamil Bey 2.bmp - 122kB

bulerias1981 - 6-27-2011 at 09:06 PM

Yeah, the version in D has some errors. In D, the maqam is technically Shahnaz, but the name of the piece can't change even though its transposed. I also like it in G. Thanks for your trascription.

fadel - 7-5-2011 at 06:48 PM

hi

I think first sheet for turksh

the scand for world

i think


Jono Oud N.Z - 7-10-2011 at 10:51 PM

Hi.
I am not sure what you mean sorry?

fadel - 7-11-2011 at 12:06 AM

hi

Branko post sheet for turksh nots

u post for world nots

Turks read the notation in a different from the way the world

suz_i_dil - 7-11-2011 at 08:40 AM

It's not so much a big deal.
Arabs deal with a rast in C, turkish in G.
Then, once you know it you can play your rast from wherever you want.

fadel - 7-11-2011 at 10:42 AM

hi

suz

yase it is not big

salam

Jono Oud N.Z - 7-11-2011 at 04:30 PM

Yes.
I was confused about this at first.
I was hearing Turkish music playing Rast on D but still notated in G. I just transpose down now and leave out the extra accidentals (as in Hijaz etc) to apply to Arabic style.
Would be interesting to find out how this has occurred, I think the Turkish musicians used to play in the same 'keys' as the Arabic ones.
Also I think the oud used before the 19th century in Turkey was identical to the Arab one. It was not used in court music in Turkey for about 400 years, I have copies of Turkish miniature paintings from the 16th century that show a larger oud.