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Beware of Fake Wittner-like Finetune Pegs

Alfaraby - 1-31-2015 at 12:18 AM

This's what Wittner company wrote to its customers worldwide.
We all should support Wittner and avoid replicas of the original great geared pegs of the company.

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
To our great dismay we noticed that imitations of our Finetune-Pegs are on offer which infringe our protective rights in many countries.
These offers are sent to wholesalers and luthiers, sometimes by using our own WITTNER artwork.
Therefore we have to inform our customers and business friends about this unpleasant situation (please see attached circular).

Please pass on our circular also to your customers.

Further you're kindly requested to inform us whenever you come across copies or offers of copies of our PATENTED Finetune-Pegs.

Thank you very much in advance for your support.

Sincerely yours,
Horst & Sabrina Wittner

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Yours indeed
Alfaraby

Matthias - 1-31-2015 at 03:23 AM

Dear Friends,

this is really a bad thing and happens unfortunately every day.

I'm offering theese pegs too in my shop here
http://music-strings.de/index.php?k=861&lang=eng
and I can guarantee you, that you will get definitively original Wittner pegs from there.

Best regards

Matthias Wagner

alloushé - 8-11-2017 at 04:12 AM

Which pegs exactly one should choose for his oud ? there is 11 models as i see .. Thanks
Quote: Originally posted by Matthias  
Dear Friends,

this is really a bad thing and happens unfortunately every day.

I'm offering theese pegs too in my shop here
http://music-strings.de/index.php?k=861&lang=eng
and I can guarantee you, that you will get definitively original Wittner pegs from there.

Best regards

Matthias Wagner

Matthias - 8-11-2017 at 10:38 AM

Quote: Originally posted by alloushé  
Which pegs exactly one should choose for his oud ? there is 11 models as i see .. Thanks


Hi,

there are the following options:


The model you have to choose depends from the diameter and length of the existing pegs. Measure them and compare it with that of he Wittner pegs. Then it will be clear which one you have to choose.

Best regards
Matthias

Alfaraby - 8-11-2017 at 10:42 AM

Oud pegs will be produced in the near future, as I have been told by the Wittners. Well, hopefully. Nobody could assure when this shall happen, so for the time being, viola pegs are good for ouds. See Matthias's list.

Yours indeed
Alfaraby

Onglon - 8-12-2017 at 06:19 AM

hello! thank you for this warning.

on a side note, i was acutally looking for a cheaper version of wittner pegs. of course, illegal use of wittner's name or patent should be condemned, but if someone were to develop a cheaper generic version, i think i could be interested.

Alfaraby - 8-12-2017 at 09:21 AM

Knilling Perfection Pegs Viola Planetary Geared Tuners are cheaper originals. You may get 12 for 210$ … I haven't tried them myself, but some friends did and said they are OK. Knilling suggests transmission ratio of 1:4, while Wittner's ratio is 1:8, which makes them more precise, but 1:4 is good enough for ouds.
There are some more of course, but not cheaper than Wittner.
All choices are available at the e stores around the web.

Good luck
Yours indeed
Alfaraby

bulerias1981 - 8-15-2017 at 09:27 PM

These are my favorite. They're great quality, beautiful mechanism and so far none of broken down on any of my clients. Also never seen any bootlegs.. http://www.pegheds.com/

Onglon - 9-23-2017 at 02:34 AM

hello Matthias, hello all,

ok, i have earmarked the money for geared pegs.... if it can help me tune better, than it is an investment i will make.

i have a technical question please: i have seen the dimmensions for the viola and violin pegs, but still not sure how to compare this to the peg box of my sukar oud.

the peg holes on my oud's pegbox is 8mm diameter on the larger (entrance) side, and 6mm on the narrower side. The width between the two is 36mm to 26mm (depending if the peg is at the base or the tail-end of the pegbox.

which model should i go for (from the Wittner or the Perfection products)?

many thanks

Matthias - 9-25-2017 at 01:03 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Onglon  


i have a technical question please: i have seen the dimmensions for the viola and violin pegs, but still not sure how to compare this to the peg box of my sukar oud.[/ rquote]

[rquote]Take the shortest and longest peg out of the pegbox and take alle themeasurements which are listed in Wittttner table.[/ rquote]

the peg holes on my oud's pegbox is 8mm diameter on the larger (entrance) side, and 6mm on the narrower side. The width between the two is 36mm to 26mm (depending if the peg is at the base or the tail-end of the pegbox.

which model should i go for (from the Wittner or the Perfection products)?


I mostly used the viola pegs as the violin ones have a smaller head and are probably too short. The 8,6 mm diameter should be good.

Matthias