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2 Medieval Pieces - sheet music scores

Jono Oud N.Z - 1-1-2017 at 01:57 PM

1

https://app.box.com/s/ica753ge9xoby6y3uzs5jb871jxzxbum

2

https://app.box.com/s/86bx9tlsp8ym3e84tssy4ruh8f0mzmnk

I have found that these pieces are well suited to the oud.

Jack_Campin - 1-6-2017 at 04:13 AM

What are they?

I can't access box.com from here but I might already have them on paper.

newlife_ks - 1-6-2017 at 05:27 AM

Hello Jack!
They are two anonymous pieces from the 14th century called Estampie and Trotto. No origin given.

Jack_Campin - 1-6-2017 at 06:57 AM

OK, I certainly have the Trotto and I probably have all the known Estampies (though there are several very different editions of them). The standard reference for mediaeval instrumental music is Timothy McGee's "Medieval Instrumental Dances":

http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/product_info.php?products_id=63443

I have an earlier printing, I think it's the same.

Jono Oud N.Z - 1-6-2017 at 01:22 PM

I can upload these to another place if that is helpful to anyone?

I was not aware of this book, thanks!
Will have to get a copy.

I managed to get a 4 volume set of the entire Cantigas de Santa Maria in standard Western staff notation.
It took a long time for me to find such a resource.
These melodies are well suited to instrumental versions.
Eduardo Paniagua has done so many excellent albums of this music.

Here is the link if anyone is interested, there are also instrumental books here.

http://www.gaita.co.uk/publications.html


Jack_Campin - 1-7-2017 at 05:00 AM

That Cantigas edition is nice (though very very big). I have known the editor for years - he lives in Edinburgh, about two minutes walk from where I used to live - and played the oud with him in our local makam group only last month.

BTW I think the estampie (istampitta) "Belicha" would be neat on an oud in the right hands though I haven't heard it done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxMTYlxadZU

It's in McGee's book.

Microber - 1-7-2017 at 07:00 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Jono Oud N.Z  

I managed to get a 4 volume set of the entire Cantigas de Santa Maria in standard Western staff notation.
It took a long time for me to find such a resource.


Did you know this web site ?
http://www.cantigasdesantamaria.com/

Microber - 1-7-2017 at 07:22 AM

The Estanpie/Istanpita is played by Jordi Savall Hesperion XXI on the CD Orient-Occident
https://youtu.be/rngo7KatCoc


Jono Oud N.Z - 1-8-2017 at 11:42 AM


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I have known the editor for years - he lives in Edinburgh, about two minutes walk from where I used to live - and played the oud with him in our local makam group only last month.


Amazing!:)
Chris Elmes has done an excellent job on the Cantigas and other Medieval music.
I have Ensemble Gaita's 'O Dulcis Scotia – Music in Medieval Scotland' CD, very nice.


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BTW I think the estampie (istampitta) "Belicha" would be neat on an oud in the right hands though I haven't heard it done:


I will check this one out, thanks.

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Did you know this web site ? http://www.cantigasdesantamaria.com/


Yes, excellent site - thanks :).

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The Estanpie/Istanpita is played by Jordi Savall Hesperion XXI on the CD Orient-Occident https://youtu.be/rngo7KatCoc\


The Savall ensemble/s interpretations of these Medieval instrumental pieces are inspired, interesting and full of life.