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Mansur Nariman Oud books (request)

alchemy - 10-1-2018 at 07:11 AM

Hi, I wanted to ask if somebody has the Oud books from Mansur Nariman, namely "Barbat (Oud) Method" and "42 Pieces for Oud", in digital format for sharing. I'm in the process of getting the physical books but would take a lot of time to have them in my hands and I want to start with them since started studying the Persian tradition.
Thanks in advance!

suz_i_dil - 10-3-2018 at 10:36 AM

Following, would be very interested too !
Regards

John Erlich - 10-3-2018 at 04:11 PM

I found a link to an image, an on-line bookstore based in Iran: http://shop.citymusic.ir/index.php?route=product/product&produc... (42 Pieces...) Also found this: https://orientalinstruments.com/strings/oud-barbat/other-accessories... Maybe they will have it again?

alchemy - 10-5-2018 at 12:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Erlich  
I found a link to an image, an on-line bookstore based in Iran: http://shop.citymusic.ir/index.php?route=product/product&produc... (42 Pieces...) Also found this: https://orientalinstruments.com/strings/oud-barbat/other-accessories... Maybe they will have it again?


Thanks for searching John, but I already know where to get the print copy. I will just take a lot of time to arrive home. I wanted to know if somebody had a digital copy.

bugaga - 10-7-2018 at 10:07 AM

I would highly recommend the book, because the CD which is with it is really helpful. Even if it takes longer, it's worth it.

If you like to have something in advance... I think I have one of the nicest pieces as jpg or something, but would need to search for it.

suz_i_dil - 10-7-2018 at 10:55 AM

Hello
I'm in for ordering the nice but indeed would be great if you could share a piece to see what we can await from those books
Best regards

Jack_Campin - 10-8-2018 at 12:27 AM

What's the usual tuning for a Persian barbat?

bugaga - 10-9-2018 at 12:08 AM

Five course instruments are usually tuned G A D G C or sometimes F A D G C, six course instruments add a C or D. Since your using lots of open strings, the tuning is very important and depending on the dastgah.

Who wants the piece can write a PM with their email address.

alchemy - 10-9-2018 at 07:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bugaga  
Who wants the piece can write a PM with their email address.


Hi bugaga, thanks, I already have a sample image. It seems a good book although having the titles of pieces in Farsi is a difficulty. I'll have the book in a couple months but I'm still looking for the digital copy.

Let me guys know if you happen to find something by chance.

majnuunNavid - 10-10-2018 at 04:03 AM

Looks like you can buy the pdf here, not sure because I didn't take the time to read it properly. http://shiraz-beethoven.ir/product.php?category=book&product_id...

bugaga - 10-10-2018 at 03:43 PM

Oh, yes. That's true. I've been in that shop two months ago, but forgot about this possibility. You can buy all this stuff as PDF, too.
The problem would be the payment. Transactions to Iran are a pain in the ass, if possible at all. I don't know if they have found a solution.

suz_i_dil - 10-11-2018 at 06:19 AM

Hello I found this link with records from Mansur Nariman:

http://player.iranseda.ir/music-player/?VALID=TRUE&g=31692&...

A question, on a barbat score, would you read the symbol V as a down or an upstroke ? I think to remember on iranian scores this symbol can be of reverse meaning depending if you play on a setar or a tar. Maybe the same on the barbat ?
I think on barbat it is an upstroke, but can you confirm ?

al-Halabi - 10-11-2018 at 08:08 AM

Yes, the symbol V above a note indicates an upstroke. It can be found also in Arabic oud methods. Turkish notations typically use an up and down arrow to indicate the upstroke and downstroke, a system that leaves no room for confusion.

suz_i_dil - 10-12-2018 at 08:59 AM

Thanks for the clarification ! Best

alchemy - 11-1-2018 at 06:56 PM

majnuunNavid, bugaga: I cannot make sense of anything in that website since I don't read farsi :(
Is it possible to buy it there?

Still looking for this one. I cannot buy the physical book yet (need to solve an issue with local customs).

Siamak - 2-13-2023 at 05:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by alchemy  
Hi, I wanted to ask if somebody has the Oud books from Mansur Nariman, namely "Barbat (Oud) Method" and "42 Pieces for Oud", in digital format for sharing. I'm in the process of getting the physical books but would take a lot of time to have them in my hands and I want to start with them since started studying the Persian tradition.
Thanks in advance!


You can find this book here:
https://www.instrumica.com/products/42-pieces-for-oud-by-mansour-nar...

Also, they have the other book of Mansur Nariman and Negar Bouban for Oud.

s3cr3t3 - 2-24-2023 at 11:24 AM

He has a large book on Radif and a different book of pieces than the 42 piece book. You can find his complete radif on Tidal at the moment Feb 2023, as well as another album with persuasions. There is a set of 2 CDs of old pieces many of which are in the books which is nice to learn.

I've been trying to get the Radif book or digital copies of the others also. Many of the current Oud / Barbat players studied under him.

PaulS - 2-26-2023 at 05:28 AM

Here is the master himself….
https://youtu.be/_cHpUTRlJdM