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Fawzy Monshed

Zulkarnain - 1-22-2004 at 03:34 AM

:wavey: Hello

Im looking for Fawzy Monshed contact details and wondering if any of you Oud Fans out there have informations about this fine Oud builder! :rolleyes:

Any kind of informations would be highly appreciate it. Thanks :bounce:

Ragards!

Zulkarnain - 1-24-2004 at 11:50 PM

Anybody? Mike? Yazoal? TP21? Jameel? El Rabee?


????

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Ronny Andersson - 1-24-2004 at 11:56 PM

After playing the repaired (reconstructed) Bashir oud of Naser, I'm very skeptical to his Bashir ouds quality. The soundboard has a very weak structure and doesn't withstand the high string tension. But the sound is very Fawzy...

Zulkarnain - 1-25-2004 at 12:14 AM

It look kinda fragile to me too but after trying one of Ahmad Mukhtar Bashir oud by Fawzy (the new version he got during the last oud meeting-fawzy bring 5 bashir oud with different style ribs), I think its really unique-the sound is loud and sustained!The neck is thiner than most oud which make it very confortable for me to move around the fingerboard.The belly/body size is just nice to hug when playing in any position (sitting or standing)

Regards

Ronny Andersson - 1-25-2004 at 12:54 PM

The neck is thiner than most oud which make it very confortable for me to move around the fingerboard.

Yes I agree, I prefer the slim neck of Fawzy or Mohammad Fadel. Yaroub's neck:rolleyes: is little bit thicker but more stable. Is for me the 1st position where I find Mohammad's neck better:D

TruePharaoh21 - 1-29-2004 at 01:45 PM

Hey man. Does he only make Turkish/Bachir ouds? Maybe we can narrow it down and contact some other oud makers and see if they know him. Most oud makers that I've known know of the others and know their locations (I dunno how willing they'd be to send you to someone else). I'm sure we can make a little project of it and find out the contact info for him. I hope I can be of help.

TP21

Zulkarnain - 1-30-2004 at 05:27 AM

Hi

oohh TP21 please please help me with that-maybe you know any oud builder around that can help too! Please let me know if you find anything ok buddy!

Many thanks in advance!



Zul

Jameel - 1-30-2004 at 05:35 AM

Z-

I'm pretty sure my teacher (Issa Boulos) is looking to sell his Foad Jihad Bashir Style. It's like the ones on Ronny's site. He'll sell it for a good price, I think. You can contact him through his website.

Zulkarnain - 1-30-2004 at 05:50 AM

Hi

Thanks Jameel I will try to contact Mr Issa. Do you have any information about Fawzy?

Regards

Jameel - 1-31-2004 at 10:23 AM

Sorry, I have no contact info for Fawzy

Bashir style oud

mawoud - 2-1-2004 at 02:05 PM

Hi,
I have an ibrahim sukar oud with Bashir style feautures.
Let me know.

Zulkarnain - 2-1-2004 at 10:41 PM

Hi guys

Is not that Im looking to buy just any Bashir oud here but I would like to contact Fawzy himself for some questions regarding his work. So I hope anybody out there who have his contact details can help me finding this guy.

Many thanks in advance!


Salam

Zul

nadir - 2-3-2004 at 01:00 AM

isnt it true that the bashir oud is more difficult to play than the syrian oud?? :shrug:

spyros mesogeia - 2-3-2004 at 08:32 AM

The technique of playing is diferent,and the tunning too.....
Regards
:wavey:

nadir - 2-3-2004 at 12:18 PM

spyros how long did it take you to learn the bashir oud?

spyros mesogeia - 2-3-2004 at 03:14 PM

Dear friend Nadir,
I believe that we never stop to learn....:rolleyes:
each day,hour,minute,we have something new to learn from the oud,about the oud.....:)
So my opinion is that I will continue to learn untill the end of my life....
Regards :wavey:

Ronny Andersson - 2-4-2004 at 04:23 AM

Zulkarnain, My Iraqi friend Saleem's brother in Bagdad, knowes Fawzy.
I can get an oud by Fawzy if you wish.

Ronny Andersson - 2-4-2004 at 04:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by nadir
isnt it true that the bashir oud is more difficult to play than the syrian oud?? :shrug:


It depends on several factors; It will be more difficult for you if you use the Iraqi tuning with a higher string tension than what you normally have on your classical oud. You can also have other tunings and lower string tension. However, the most difficult part will be the eagle risha which needs a completely different posture, technique. Because Munir and Omar Bashir master the eagle risha doesn't mean that other materials aren't possible with different result . Shamma use plastic risha and many other use horn.

Zulkarnain - 2-4-2004 at 07:08 PM

Hi Guys

Ronny thanks for looking up for me-I will email u regarding Fawzy matter. Thanks again!


Regards

Zul

nadir - 2-5-2004 at 01:11 PM

thanks also for the bashir knowledge guys!!

i'll just keep up with my syrian! :airguitar:

Zulkarnain - 2-17-2004 at 07:46 PM

Any news on Fawzy guys?:rolleyes:

Oud meeting

David Parfitt - 2-18-2004 at 12:45 AM

Hi Zul

You mentioned an 'oud meeting' in your posting about Ahmed Mukhtar:

"It look kinda fragile to me too but after trying one of Ahmad Mukhtar Bashir oud by Fawzy (the new version he got during the last oud meeting"

Do you have any more information?

Best wishes

David

Zulkarnain - 2-18-2004 at 07:41 PM

Hi

Ahmad was telling me how he end up buying 'new' Fawzy oud on the last oud meeting held last year. I know he got 2 bashir oud made by Fawzy. 1 with a plain bowl and a date written in arabic over the pick guard and 1 oud with a double thin line on the center of the bowl.

Fawzy was there to promote his 'new' design bashir model. He bring 5 with him and promote it to Ahmad Mukhtar. According to Ahmad the ribs is thinner and fawzy use some kind of material from inside to attach them together (linen mix something-Im not 100% sure).

I have a look at the new oud and it is different than the other 2 (I used to play with his 2 oud during lessons) Its very light and the finishing is amazing-the sound somehow louder than the 2 (really projected) the rest of the oud look the same than the other 2. I notice that the finishing of the pegs are not really well done (only the top part well polished) the rest are a bit uneven.

Ahmad told me that Fawzy is no longer live in Iraq-he is somewhere in the middle east country and its very hard to contact him-so he got lucky this time when fawzy approached him to sell those oud. I would be very gratefull if anybody can help me to contact Fawzy as Ahmad is too busy to do so.

Im not sure what happen to the other 4 oud that he bring with him.

Salam

David Parfitt - 2-18-2004 at 11:56 PM

Hi Zul

Do you know where the oud meeting was held, or who attended it? I know that there was one in Jordan last year - see this page:

http://www.jerashfestival.com.jo/english/participants/oud.htm

Best wishes

David

Zulkarnain - 2-19-2004 at 12:05 AM

Hi

Yup I remember he mentioned about Jordan but I cant see his name on the concert list (he also mentioned about Omar Bashir was there performing)

Salam

Zulkarnain - 3-12-2004 at 06:32 PM

Hi

Any news regarding Fawzy contact details? Any help would be highly appreciate it!


Regards

Zulkarnain - 3-13-2004 at 09:00 PM

Hi

I heard that Ghassan Yousef from Syria use Fawzy's oud-Anybody can confirm this?

Zulkarnain - 4-2-2004 at 09:42 PM

Hi Guys

This is the Bashir oud by Fawzy Monshed that I mentioned earlier on this topic. Shown here is Ahmed Mukhtar giving lesson to me during my visit to London last year.

Do you guys think the end area of the peg box look a lil bit different?

Zulkarnain - 4-2-2004 at 09:46 PM

Close Up!

Please notice the size of the ribs that Fawzy use to build this model-kind of slim than the normal size he normally do. (check out the material he use to attach the ribs together from the inside)

Zulkarnain - 4-2-2004 at 09:49 PM

Hope anybody can help me with Fawzy's contact details (if you guys come across him by chance!)

Thanks all!

Zulkarnain - 4-2-2004 at 09:59 PM

Hi

I post a sound file on this Oud soon....or maybe a video clips....

Later

Ronny Andersson - 4-2-2004 at 11:41 PM

Zul, the pegbox looks very much the same on the one that I had (Shamma's).
But it looks like if he used multiribbed bowl - more than 21 ribs.

Zulkarnain - 4-3-2004 at 01:07 AM

Thats correct Ronny! A lot of ribs now-any comment?

Zulkarnain - 5-14-2004 at 10:49 AM

Hi

Still no news about Fawzy-the last time I heard about him was he is in Basrah Iraq-anybody can confirm this?


Regards

Ronny Andersson - 7-8-2004 at 06:20 AM

I have contact with Fawzy Monshed and I can have his ouds here within 2 months.
If you are interested in his ouds mail me.

Ronny

Zulkarnain - 7-8-2004 at 06:30 AM

Thanks Ronny-I will email you!



Regards

Ronny Andersson - 7-8-2004 at 06:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zulkarnain
Thanks Ronny-I will email you!

Regards


Zul, Fawzy told me that his Bashir oud are now improved, if you compare them with his earlier works like the oud Shamma played on some years ago that had some weak points.

Zulkarnain - 7-8-2004 at 07:39 AM

Hi Ronny

I think that will be the new Fawzy Oud that Mukhtar use to teach me recently-remember the multiple ribs technique? The sound is more projected too!


Regards

Ronny Andersson - 7-8-2004 at 08:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zulkarnain
Hi Ronny

I think that will be the new Fawzy Oud that Mukhtar use to teach me recently-remember the multiple ribs technique? The sound is more projected too!
Regards


Yes Zul, that's the one. It will be very interesting to play this new improved model when Shamma's oud was an excellent oud (especially after the sounboard was replaced. ) I don't think the number of ribs affects the sound so much, it's more the wood and other construction details.