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Pyramid lute strings

bouga15 - 8-8-2007 at 03:04 AM

Hi everyone,
i've a question :
what's the difference between Pyramid lute string 1013 and Pyramid lute string 1113 ? :shrug:

Lazzaro - 8-8-2007 at 05:48 AM

the difference is in the inner nylon part which is more thick, and therefore is harder than 1013. But in my pyramid string calculator the string 1113 does't exist, there is 1111, 1114, 1116, 1124 etc.
best regards Maurizio

bouga15 - 8-8-2007 at 06:46 AM

Thanks a lot for this clarification Lazzaro but i've two more questions :
Can i use the 1236 Pyramid lute string for the single bass F ?
What's the difference between 1013 AL and 1013 ? :shrug:

Lazzaro - 8-8-2007 at 02:47 PM

in my pyramid calculator 1236 for bass F with 60 cm scale length has got a very hard tension -60N- in my experience is not the rigth one. In my floating bridge oud -57 scale length- I use a 1032 for the bass and tune it F or E. I believe that each oud needs the rigth strings not all the strings fit every oud.
The suffix AL is for aluminium and this strings have a very ligther tension, the 1013AL have the same tension of the 0,825 plain nylon.
good luck Maurizio

bouga15 - 8-9-2007 at 12:56 AM

:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
thnx a lot........
best regards

Matthias - 8-9-2007 at 01:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lazzaro
the difference is in the inner nylon part which is more thick, and therefore is harder than 1013. But in my pyramid string calculator the string 1113 does't exist, there is 1111, 1114, 1116, 1124 etc.
best regards Maurizio


the first two digits in the Pyramid string number counts the number of the inside Nylon fibres of a string. Guitar strings have or need more to get a more based sound.

Until one year ago, the 1113 has been not a standart string. By this reason it do not appear on the fret calculator. But now this string Pyramid made a standart one, as I had ordered it very often, as it is a string in the set of Naseer Shamma, that I sell nearly very often. As it is now a standard string, it has the same price as the 1013.

The ending "AL" at a string means that the wound metal is Aluminium, a much more lighter material than the silvered copper the other strings do have. Therefore all the -AL strings give less tension. They have been often used on lutes, but now they are mostly replaced by carbon strings, as the AL strings break earlier.

All the best Matthias

bouga15 - 8-9-2007 at 03:54 AM

:applause:
thanks Matthias but i've one more question :
can i use these strings for a Naseer Shamma tuning (58.5 cm) :
F: 1236
CC:1114
DD:1111
gg:1007
cc:0.750
ff:0.650

Matthias - 8-9-2007 at 03:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bouga15
:applause:
thanks Matthias but i've one more question :
can i use these strings for a Naseer Shamma tuning (58.5 cm) :
F: 1236
CC:1114
DD:1111
gg:1007
dd:0.750
ff:0.650


Hello Ahmed Bougacha,

except the 1236 ( 60 Newton !!! as Mauricio told you ) for the F you can use this set, but you have mor tension for the trebbles and less for the basses. Dot you really want this?

Best regards Matthias

bouga15 - 8-9-2007 at 05:07 AM

Hello Mr Wagner,
in fact,i want the same tension for the basses and the trebbles but i've tried many strings for the basses and they break off.
Now i'm using this set on my floating bridge oud (58.5 cm) :
F:1035
CC:1116
DD:1013
gg:1007
cc:0.725
ff:0.650
i really love the 0.650 and the 1007;however, one of the 1116 is broken and the 1035 , 1013 , 0.725 have a low tension in my opinion.
I think that the best strings for my oud are:
single guitar bass instead of the 1035
0.750 instead of the 0.725
1016 instead of the 1116
and maybe 1111 instead of 1013 (if it has a more tension).
Please help me because i bought many Pyramid lute strings sets but i didn't find the right strings !!!! :(