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Small help with translating needed (again..)

Masel - 3-28-2009 at 06:28 AM

I'm sorry for these offtopic messages, I know it's an oud forum not an arabic learning forum but I will record this song as soon as I learn it. I am trying to learn "ya sabah elkhir" by oum kulthum, it's my favourite song by her.

I can understand most of it, I will post my amateurish translation, just correct or complete the small missing parts please!! I only need the translation so I can understand and learn new words and know what I am singing. Thank you!


يا صباح الخير يللي معانا
يللي معانا
الكروان غنى وصحانا
وصحانا

What a good morning we have
And the karawan bird sings to wake us up

والشمس طالعة وضحاها
والطير اهي سارحة في سماها
يلا معاها ..يلا معاها

and the sun comes out and shines bright
and flies with her flock in the sky
(yala m3aha is what I'm not sure about - I thought it would be "you who are with her" but it would be written الي or الى no?or am I making it more complicated than it should be?)

يا صباح الخير يللي معانا
يللي معانا

يا هناه اللي يفوق من نومه
قاصد ربه وناسي همومه
يفرح قلبه..يسعد يومه
فرحة طول عمره ما ينساها
ولا يسلاها.. ولا يسلاها

You here that awaken
The messanger arrives and the people are troubled (????)
The heart will rejoice . . The day happy
Happinness life long, will not wait
and will not be distracted (taken off track)

الصبح أهو نوّر واتبسِم
والدنيا ضحك لي مُحيّاها
ونسيم الازهار أهو نسِّم
على أهل الدنيا وأحياها
البدرية ساعة هنية
يسعدنا جمالها وبهاها
يا محلاها.. يا محلاها

The morning I love its light and I smile
And the world shines up and comes to life
And a flowery breeze blows
on the people of the earth and revives them
A surprising hour arrives
will make us happy, it's great beauty (baha???)
You beautiful (?... not sure exactly)

Reda Aouad - 3-28-2009 at 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by Masel
I'm sorry for these offtopic messages, I know it's an oud forum not an arabic learning forum but I will record this song as soon as I learn it. I am trying to learn "ya sabah elkhir" by oum kulthum, it's my favourite song by her.

I can understand most of it, I will post my amateurish translation, just correct or complete the small missing parts please!! I only need the translation so I can understand and learn new words and know what I am singing. Thank you!


يا صباح الخير يللي معانا
يللي معانا
الكروان غنى وصحانا
وصحانا

What a good morning we have
And the karawan bird sings to wake us up

والشمس طالعة وضحاها
والطير اهي سارحة في سماها
يلا معاها ..يلا معاها

and the sun comes out and shines bright
and flies with her flock in the sky and the bird flies in her (the sun's) sky
(yala m3aha is what I'm not sure about - I thought it would be "you who are with her" but it would be written الي or الى no?or am I making it more complicated than it should be?) let's go with her

يا صباح الخير يللي معانا
يللي معانا

يا هناه اللي يفوق من نومه
قاصد ربه وناسي همومه
يفرح قلبه..يسعد يومه
فرحة طول عمره ما ينساها
ولا يسلاها.. ولا يسلاها

You here that awaken He "here" who gets awake
The messanger arrives and the people are troubled (????) Who praises/seeks God and forgets about his troubles
The heart will rejoice . . The day happy
Happinness life long, will not wait A happiness he will never forget
and will not be distracted (taken off track)

الصبح أهو نوّر واتبسِم
والدنيا ضحك لي مُحيّاها
ونسيم الازهار أهو نسِّم
على أهل الدنيا وأحياها
البدرية ساعة هنية
يسعدنا جمالها وبهاها
يا محلاها.. يا محلاها

The morning I love its light and I smile The morning shines and smiles
And the world shines up and comes to life And the world's "mouth" smiles
And a flowery breeze blows
on the people of the earth and revives them ...and revives the world (not the people)
A surprising hour arrives
will make us happy, it's great beauty (baha???) Baha is similar to beauty or sweetness
You beautiful (?... not sure exactly) How beautiful she is

Reda Aouad - 3-28-2009 at 07:55 AM

It is still not perfect though. It is very hard to translate Arabic - so rich, so many accents, spoken and written languages differ, etc... But I will be waiting for you to sing it ;)

Masel - 3-28-2009 at 09:47 AM

يسلمو ايديك ياحبيبي, شكرا.
It is hard to translate to english, on the other hand it is not so far from hebrew, I learn arabic from a book written in hebrew, and my dictionary is hebrew/arabic, the languages are alot closer to eachother than english (obviously), but if I asked for a hebrew translation here I would not have a good chance no? heheh..

Thanks again, and yes arabic is very rich, sometimes it makes me sad that the way we speak hebrew today is sometimes far from showing the richness of the hebrew language, but arabic has kept more of its beauty, I believe.

Reda Aouad - 3-28-2009 at 10:00 AM

Anytime :)

I don't know how you manage to translate.. It's a good thing because most of the Arabic songs are sung in a spoken accent, and not the way we write it. Your dictionary surely translates the written Arabic words and not the spoken one. Spoken accents even differ within the same country more than you can imagine. How long have you been learning Arabic?

Masel - 3-28-2009 at 11:16 PM

ردى, ما اتعلم بس من كتاب, عندي اصحاب اللي يتقلمو. انشالله اعرف كل يوم اكثر من قبلهو.
But I cannot calculate how much time I am learning, it is more periodical, but now I am very serious about it and making progress.