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oud & sarangi

Branko - 7-30-2009 at 02:12 AM

Impromptu jam in nihavent - kirwani mode
:rolleyes:

Edward Powell - 7-30-2009 at 07:20 PM

great combo!
thanks

MatthewW - 7-31-2009 at 02:30 AM

I agree, nice combination of instruments. If you didn't know it was a sarangi you might think it was another stringed instrument more associated with the oud, maybe like a violin, kemence, etc. cheers,MW

Branko - 7-31-2009 at 03:34 AM

Well, this was first time I met the guy, we were not even tuned properly, so it is real impromptu recorded on my mp3 player. I just want to see forum members opinion on "shoe box" kemence and oud combination, as I am considering further exploration/collaboration. Any suggestions on maqam/raga combinations, please?

Edward Powell - 7-31-2009 at 06:37 AM

Try Nikriz / Hemavati :D

Cyberquills - 7-31-2009 at 04:33 PM

Interesting stuff Branko.

CQ

MatthewW - 8-1-2009 at 01:32 AM

Bhairavi is one of my favourites, suits the oud nicely.
http://www.chandrakantha.com/raga_raag/bhairavi/bhairavi.html

Branko - 8-2-2009 at 04:49 AM

Matthew,
How about Bhairavi/Hijaz-kar-kurd and Bhairav/Hijaz-kar combination?

MatthewW - 8-5-2009 at 01:54 AM

Hi Branko
A hijaz-kar kurd/bhairavi would work nicely as they share a similiar scale pattern- hijaz kar kurd uses a minor 2nd ( western terminology) in its scale and bhairavi uses both the minor and the natural 2nd, both use a similiar 7th degree scale note.
a hijaz kar might be a bit more tricky, depending on the form you wish to use- from what I understand Hijaz Kar can have two forms, one having a natural 7th scale degree and one form without. If you use the one with a natural 7th scale degree ( ie: if Hijaz Kar in the key of C the natural 7th ( western terminology) would be a B note; if in the key of D it would be C#) it could fit OK depending how/when you modulate to it. Follow your own feelings on it- from what I've heard of your oud playing you should have no problems bud! cheers, MW

Edward Powell - 8-5-2009 at 07:28 AM

what I have been doing the last few years in this direction of combining ragas and makams is, rather than taking whole ragas and whole makams and hopefully finding compatibility, I have been taking makam and raga tetra and pentachords, and combining those and coming up with "ragmakams".

For example:
-"ragmakam ussak bageshri" (ussak tetrachord plus bageshri tetrachord)

-"desh huzzam" (desh pentachord plus huzzam tetrachord)

...but one that I found works really well when you take the entire raga and the entire makam, even though the notes are a bit different, still when you go back and forth between the two, are BHAIRAVI, and SABA.

Branko - 8-7-2009 at 04:23 AM

Edward and Matthew,
Thanks a lot. You are very kind to share knowlage.
Best wishes
Branko