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Sazi
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For the type of music you play you have a good tuning already, the Iraqi tuning is highly specialized, ideal for the Iraqi repertoire and rather less
versatile when it comes to the classics, (or requires some tricky fancy finger-work to make up for the missing open A). So I believe you are better
off with F A d g c (f), G A d g c (f) or C F A d g c
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Edward Powell
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the point is that a large body is capable of reproducing deeper frequencies than a smaller body - and a smaller body oud will have better response in
the high register - so logically, it makes sense to use higher tuning and string configurations on a smaller oud, and vise versa.
for example, you will not put cello strings on a violin, or violin strings on a cello
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DaveH
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Hi Charlie
Like you say in your first post, I think they're pretty much different instruments. I like the sonority of the high f for higher, delicate playing,
but in the end, I think very few ouds respond very resonantly on the high f string. Floating bridges do sometimes work well - perhaps more often than
fixed, but for my part, I've always missed the effectiveness in the mid to low range, so I've switched to c-c tuning. I find my floating bridge, which
is not especially lightly built, responds better in these ranges, and I now prefer the playing styles that use them.
See you Sunday!
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Edward Powell
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oud playing in Turkish is at an extremely advance level, and you will basically never find an 7 course ouds over there - they basically don't exist.
Personally I feel that makam music is not about playing in a vast range - as we said, 5 course ouds were the norm for centuries...
I now feel that a 6 course oud is a very good way to go - it is a good compromise between the ancient simplicity, and modern demands for greater
range.
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Reda Aouad
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For me, a 7-course oud is a way to play different styles on the oud without having to have several ouds. It's not a matter of range but flexibility. I
agree that Rast on the very high octave is non-sense..
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Edward Powell
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yes... it is nice to have flexibility these days. . . . . afterall I myself "need" so much flexibility that I have 31 strings on my "oud" )
I think "rast" can be played anywhere and can be beautiful - but the point is that if it is played high, then it is no longer a 'traditional rast',
therefore the name should not be RAST as not to confuse people because one of the distinguishing features of original rast is the LOW register. [now,
having said this, I realise that I myself have been recently somewhat guilty of this when I combined RAGA SARASWATI and MAKAM RAST.... and the rast
part was in the very high register. No wonder it didn't sound much like rast --- the sound is very nice, but NOT much like rast]
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