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Jono Oud N.Z
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Hi.
The Mohammed Abduh song is very good, thanks!
I like his music, particularly the recordings with a small group.
I will check out the Oum Kalhtoum song too.
Also, I agree about Saba being used often as an effective modulation, often to cause temporary tension/sadness.
In many old pieces Ajam modulates to Saba and vice versa.
Also from Bayati, Rast (nawa, or husseyni) and Iraq/Segah - Bastanikar.
And of course the Tarab is the most important thing.
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Khalid_Salé
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http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/6/26/3320318/Sadrettin_Ozcimi_Ame...
Sadreddin Ozcimi, Goksel Baktagir and Ahmet Celik. The Turkish Saba seems to suffer less from the problem of "too much intensity to sustain", at least
to my ear. Is it because they spend more time in the upper reaches?
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Jono Oud N.Z
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The Turkish Saba seems to suffer less from the problem of "too much intensity to sustain", at least to my ear. Is it because they spend more time in
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Very good point.
There are two Saba maqamat these days.
Julien Weiss from Al Kindi explains that the one with the flat fourth (Gb) is common to Arabic music, like Bedouin music.
This emphasizes the lower tetrachord mostly with emphasis on the note Saba (Gb).
This version was also common to Ottoman music until the 1700's.
The other one is common to ancient Antioch Church music and has a Gd ('quarter' tone) as the fourth.
In modern Turkish music, it is really a mixture of Zirgulah Hijaz and Ushshaq/Bayati, but as you said there is mostly a focus on the upper part.
Ali al- Darwish referred to this as the Saba Rakb maqam.
There is a modulation to this from regular Saba on the Husayn IsmâÎl Al-Azami / Al-Kindî Ensemble album.
(Thanks to the very detailed liner notes).
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I finally found the samai Saba from Jabakji's book
Dont know much about Abd El Fatah Sukar that (I guess) wrote this piece and never heard someone play it.
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Jono Oud N.Z
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Cool!
A good one to learn
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BaniYazid
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Thank you!
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Rambaldi47
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There's a beautiful Oum Kalthoum song from her early years
titled "Tishuf 'umuri". According to this site, it was composed by
Mohammad al-Qasabji with Lyrics by Ahmad Ramy.
Oum Kalthoum - Tishuf 'umuri
Oum Kalthoum - Tishuf 'umuri
Nate.
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amna.al.hawaj
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This one is a classic by Shaikh Imam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97VipY4W2xI
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Khalid_Salé
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Just heard the call to prayer in Saba 
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Rambaldi47
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I don't recall whether it was mentioned, but Asmahan's 'Ahedni Ya Qalbi
is a very nice song in Saba.
Nate.
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Rambaldi47
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I've just now heard this song for the first time and fell in love with it.
Muhamad Abdel Mutaleb - Ah Min Gamal Eloyoun
Nate.
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David Parfitt
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So, does anyone know the composer of this Sama'i Saba.....?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHox7FUviNk
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